VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[levets]

Where is the margin of error that should be given to the attacking player, The technology is not 100% so how can you call it offside, Both blue and red lines looked like they were overlapping each other so the advantage should be the attacking player,

Can we go back and take a look at the mistakes the referees were making before VAR to what is happening in the game today, The clear and obvious errors the Referees were making we could all take and put down as human error,

But VAR with match referees controlling the technology and making errors is unacceptable and should be stopped

That new ‘margin of error’ that only Marcus Rashford has ever received v Liverpool at the start of last season

 

[levets]

They make the referees job hard. Offside would be easier and fairer if the rule was changed to being onside if any part of your body is onside (clear daylight needed for offside)

Should be the ‘heel’ of the attackers trailing foot. This way we won’t get issues like yesterday where the Cov player is a size 11 foot, but Wanbissaka is a size 7.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Worth reading.

 

[kaz7]

Where are the var lovers today , nothing to say then ?

If that had been a rag scoring that goal it wouldnt have been disallowed , we all know it

 

[jim tolmies perm]

Should be the ‘heel’ of the attackers trailing foot. This way we won’t get issues like yesterday where the Cov player is a size 11 foot, but Wanbissaka is a size 7.

Well the toe being rolled over by the line makes it a size 7

 

[halfcenturyup]

We have a great VAR offside tech implemented in Europe. All this talk that you hear to remove VAR is probably to help the red Mafia push their narrative again. Whatever they want I will vote against .. feck em.

How does this great VAR offside tech work, out of interest? I don't mean in principle. I mean in detail.

For example: what is the resolution of the VAR cameras? How accurately is the kick point determined? What are the 29 data points? How are the data from the data points collected? How, and how accurately, is data interpolated between frames? How are the graphics drawn and what is the error tolerance?

You may think these aren't important questions, but if SAOT is being sold on improved accuracy, we should be able to convince ourselves that such accuracy exists and we shouldn't be fooled by a nice graphic showing a perfectly accurate position if the underlying system has accuracy flaws. Don't forget the accuracy paradox: the more accurate you try to be, the more variables you are opening up that can be inaccurate. Also don't forget that leg movement in 1/100 of a second can be 5-10 cm.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I said it previously... VAR has changed football for the worse.

We're all so confused now. The refs, pgmol, the clubs, the fans. Meanwhile the company that runs it makes money.

Before VAR we knew what handball was ffs

 

[stonerblue]

How does this great VAR offside tech work, out of interest? I don't mean in principle. I mean in detail.

For example: what is the resolution of the VAR cameras? How accurately is the kick point determined? What are the 29 data points? How are the data from the data points collected? How, and how accurately, is data interpolated between frames? How are the graphics drawn and what is the error tolerance?

You may think these aren't important questions, but if SAOT is being sold on improved accuracy, we should be able to convince ourselves that such accuracy exists and we shouldn't be fooled by a nice graphic showing a perfectly accurate position if the underlying system has accuracy flaws. Don't forget the accuracy paradox: the more accurate you try to be, the more variables you are opening up that can be inaccurate. Also don't forget that leg movement in 1/100 of a second can be 5-10 cm.

In the still of the rags offside it looks like the Coventry player is moving away from goal (or at least leaning) and Bissaka is running toward goal.
I wonder what percentage of a second it takes for foot position to change?

 

[stonerblue]

I said it previously... VAR has changed football for the worse.

We're all so confused now. The refs, pgmol, the clubs, the fans. Meanwhile the company that runs it makes money.

Before VAR we knew what handball was ffs

One yesterday (think it was Young) was absolutely nailed on in my book, but i dont think they even vard it

 

[SWPISHOME]

After all the drama yesterday, I'm still trying to get my head around it all today, It's crazy really.

I was reading articles on what Carragher and Neville had to say regarding the Nottingham Forest penalty claims. Now, Instead of going into the penalty claims that should have been awarded, They don't!

They instead attack Nottingham Forest FC and the statement that they released, Why? It's all Sky Sports and Pundits and Propaganda...
Why didn't they "back" Nottingham Forest FC and say "Come on PGMOL let's hear what you've to say as to why Nottingham Forest haven't been awarded blatant penalties, Along with the truth behind Stuart Atwell".

Then they go on to say that Mark Clattenburg should "Resign", This isn't the first time that they've said that a staff member from football clubs OR managers "should resign". How fucking dare they say something like that, Who the fuck are those pair of cunts to tell somebody to resign! Carragher and Neville telling somebody to resign, Really?? Wow.

As for the Coventry disallowed goal, It's blatant cheating, Just like the Nottingham Forest game. It's cheating! We all know that Wright was onside...

How on earth the officiating in this country can get away with it is crazy! Coventry like Nottingham Forest are well within their right to release a statement looking for answers as to why they were "cheated" out of an FA Cup Final.

Football is shit, It's fucked and it can simply Fuck Off.