Hooliganism and Violence Maine Road 80's/early 90's

Eaststander1 said:
I was cutting through the back streets one sunny match day to get to Claremont Road, and I walked slap bang into a rowdy bunch of Middlesboro yobs who had just trashed the Clarence Pub on Wilmslow Road ... there was about 40 of the rough lookin' fkers, 15 yards or so, coming right towards of me .... I didn't know whether to start praying, carry on walking, or do a runner back in the direction i'd come from, but it was a really nerve wracking situation, and especially as a few of them were eyeing me up!

Luckily for me someone had alerted the cops to their threatening presence outside the nearby pub, and four vanloads of police came hurtling down the street, and jumped out of the vans to encircle the Boro yobs ..... i counted my blessings, and took the opportunity to scarper off down the nearest alleyway amidst all the commotion!!
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Hang on. Boro never trashed the Clarence. where do you get that information from. ?
 
Wilmslow Road said:
Hang on. Boro never trashed the Clarence. where do you get that information from. ?
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My two mates were in there when it happened ..... the cops were called there in force, and they caught up with the Boro mob, who had charged off across Wilmslow Road into the side streets opposite, which was where i encountered them ... it was all the talk on our special train to an away game the week after.

They were definitely Boro yobs, and some of them had bricks in their hands and were singing 'Boro aggro' as they charged down the street ....

I never personally saw or heard of Newcastle doing it at the Clarence myself ... although there was a strong rumour that , at some game at City, Newcastle had caused trouble at another pub in Moss Side.

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Boro came but never got inside. Newcastle turned up at about quarter to three when most had gone but never got inside. Chelsea came and parked their Coach across the road and regretted it. Nones ever smashed up the Clarence.
 
Eaststander1 said:
My two mates were in there when it happened ..... the cops were called there in force, but the Boro mob had run off across Wilmslow Road into the side streets opposite, and it was all the talk on our special train to an away game the week after.

I never saw or heard of Newcastle ever doing it.
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The Geordies defo smashed it.
I walked out of the Whitworth straight in to them as they had just got off a bus on Moss Lane East and made there way up Wilmslow Rd.
A nice mob of them it was .
 
yeseye said:
The Geordies defo smashed it.
I walked out of the Whitworth straight in to them as they had just got off a bus on Moss Lane East and made there way up Wilmslow Rd.
A nice mob of them it was .
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I know Newcastle did cause trouble in another pub near Maine Road on one occasion .... I think it was the big one right at the other end of Claremont Road, nr Princess Road, because they were on forums bragging about it.

Newcastle in the 70s and 80s were a real bad lot, especially at home .... and nothing like they are today.

Middlesbrough have never really been any different, always capable of trouble..
 
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mancityvstoke said:
There was a lot of reprisal attacks at Maine Road. So I've been told.

I usually got on the bus back to Gorton in the 70's.
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Middlesbrough got some 'reprisal' at Maine Rd around 73/74.

They were battered all over Manchester,Moss Side & Maine Rd.

Cars, minibus's, coaches wrecked including one that was set on fire.

Chief of Cleveland Police complained that GMP did nowt .....he was right !!
 
Fordyboy46 said:
I think in the guvnor general book it mentions that that brum mob gave City a real hard day
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Think that was later.
In 84ish it was running battles up and down Lloyd street/Claremont.
Always remember a black lad at the front of their mob waving a crutch about.
Also city lads saying utd had teamed up with Birmingham, just usual shit.
Went Birmingham later in the 80s but didn't make the ground as the old bill penned us in a pub down there while they had a nice friendly chat with Daft Donald haha
 
Kippax77 said:
Think that was later.
In 84ish it was running battles up and down Lloyd street/Claremont.
Always remember a black lad at the front of their mob waving a crutch about.
Also city lads saying utd had teamed up with Birmingham, just usual shit.
Went Birmingham later in the 80s but didn't make the ground as the old bill penned us in a pub down there while they had a nice friendly chat with Daft Donald haha
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He was from Middleton I think Daft D?
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Its hard to quantify if you arent of that mind set.
Britain has always been, for thousands of years, a war mongering nation where young lads could go and scrap all over the world in the name of fighting for your country.
Lads lining up to fight in WW1, lying about their age, also in the name of empire building and fighting nazism. But often just an excuse to scrap.
National service enabled it. Off to Aden, korea, wherever, off for a scrap.

Then with the end of national service, the desire for young lads to fight was still there so it manifested itself in mods/rockers fighting on brighton beach, then into football hooliganism. Lads just wanted to fight and found an excuse and a way.

Thank fully these days the need doesnt seem to be there. But its just how it was back then and still young men want to fight.
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The flaw in that argument is that there was hooliganism before National Service ended. There were Teddy Boys in the 1950s and razor gangs in the 1930s.
 
Wilmslow Road said:
Boro came but never got inside. Newcastle turned up at about quarter to three when most had gone but never got inside. Chelsea came and parked their Coach across the road and regretted it. Nones ever smashed up the Clarence.
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Is this not when Boro came into the North Stand 10 mins from the end?
 
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