Hooliganism and Violence Maine Road 80's/early 90's

[Indaparkside]

Leicester away he was trying to persuade everyone to not catch the train back to Manchester but a different one (can’t remember where to ) to meet up with Millwall. No idea how he was going to contact them as it was before the days of mobile but he was convinced of his plan,

Ey Thingy getting a firm together u up for it
:) seem him on train going to Huddersfield with one of those surgical masks on do you think the dibble will recognise me he said mad as they come

 

[Sid C]

Wasn’t that Kev Kennedy ‘Bulldog’ with the donkey jacket and cotton wool.

Sounds like ‘Bulldog’. I can’t remember the ground but I think it was West Brom when towards the end a mob barged in behind shouting ‘Where’s this Bullshit ****?’ We were taken by surprise but half the blues pointed him out shouting ‘that’s him’. For a large lad he could run he couldn’t half move. Then it kicked off despite laughing our bollocks off.

 

[Wilmslow Road]

I was on the bus going to the game and the road was covered in broken glass with pub windows put through , saw a mob of presumably geordies moving off though none of them were wearing Newcastle shirts, after the game they were being attacked going back into town.

I was there in the back Bar and Newcastle came up the piece of land beside the Pub. City backed off but stood at the door and they didn't get in. There would have been no City in the front bar as all the lads used the back and as I said most had gone to the ground when they arrived. I do not remember any of the front windows going through and they certainly didn't get inside to trash the place. However i am checking with mates and will come back to you.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Leeds vs Millwall in the FA Cup this weekend, that would have been some tie in this era.lol

 

[WestGorton]

I saw a Spurs fan slashed or stabbed near the Cool Cats coach after the 81 replay. It was horrible and I wasn't at all bothered about losing after seeing that. An older City fan was trying to help him.

 

[WestGorton]

Leeds vs Millwall in the FA Cup this weekend, that would have been some tie in this era.lol

I was at London Bridge in 1987. I don't dislike them but they feed off the hype.

 

[Franny 1234]

Alot as been written about daft Donald m.
But one thing for sure he was game as f-ck and stood his ground.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Hang on. Boro never trashed the Clarence. where do you get that information from. ?

They did, can’t remember the year, but the cunts we’re well organised and did a few pubs on Wilmslow Road that day

 

[chaddblue]

They did, can’t remember the year, but the cunts we’re well organised and did a few pubs on Wilmslow Road that day

Wasn’t it the Whitworth?

 

[LongsightM13]

Its hard to quantify if you arent of that mind set.
Britain has always been, for thousands of years, a war mongering nation where young lads could go and scrap all over the world in the name of fighting for your country.
Lads lining up to fight in WW1, lying about their age, also in the name of empire building and fighting nazism. But often just an excuse to scrap.
National service enabled it. Off to Aden, korea, wherever, off for a scrap.

Then with the end of national service, the desire for young lads to fight was still there so it manifested itself in mods/rockers fighting on brighton beach, then into football hooliganism. Lads just wanted to fight and found an excuse and a way.

Thank fully these days the need doesnt seem to be there. But its just how it was back then and still young men want to fight.

The very first travelling ‘firm’ in history was in bare knuckle boxing. A gang called The Nottingham Lambs followed a fighter called Bendigo/Abendegno around the country
They wore silk scarves as a uniform/calling card from the East Midlands lace and textile industry and caused absolute carnage wherever they went, often linked to betting

 

[Manncity]

I saw a Spurs fan slashed or stabbed near the Cool Cats coach after the 81 replay. It was horrible and I wasn't at all bothered about losing after seeing that. An older City fan was trying to help him.

I also saw that, he had a spurs shirt on if I remember, it was across his stomach.

 

[Winchester]

I also saw that, he had a spurs shirt on if I remember, it was across his stomach.

I saw that too
Thursday night
Vile !

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

The very first travelling ‘firm’ in history was in bare knuckle boxing. A gang called The Nottingham Lambs followed a fighter called Bendigo/Abendegno around the country
They wore silk scarves as a uniform/calling card from the East Midlands lace and textile industry and caused absolute carnage wherever they went, often linked to betting

When was that?

I've read books, that haven't been about football hooliganism, that have said there where mass fights between "football fans", basically one area against another going back well over a hundred years ago at football games.

Not necessarily big clubs, but town against town fights.

More local then than travelling across the country but it's always been going on.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Wasn’t it the Whitworth?

Deffo did the Clarence and deffo did a couple more but not sure which they were pal - a long time ago (possibly the Albert?)

 

[chaddblue]

Deffo did the Clarence and deffo did a couple more but not sure which they were pal - a long time ago (possibly the Albert?)

Pretty sure the Whitworth was one. Think they came down Oxford Road and that was the first 'city pub' they came across. We'd left just before they arrived and heard about it afterwards

 

[Tim of the Oak]

When was that?

I've read books, that haven't been about football hooliganism, that have said there where mass fights between "football fans", basically one area against another going back well over a hundred years ago at football games.

Not necessarily big clubs, but town against town fights.

More local then than travelling across the country but it's always been going on.

The Scuttlers are mentioned in Peter Walsh’s first book on the “Gangs of Manchester”.

There have been disputes they have spilled over from football hooliganism to inter town violence and vice versa. There’s a book about Bradford City’s “Ointment” firm. In it, the writer describes how Farr Town, a tough part of Huddersfield, would turn out for a scrap with the Ointment when Bradford City played Huddersfield. The feud started over a drugs deal that went wrong IIRC:

 

[Shirley]

Liverpool fans invented train wrecking, worth a mention.

 

[Bobby the blue]

Liverpool fans invented train wrecking, worth a mention.

And the use of Stanley knives at football.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Pretty sure the Whitworth was one. Think they came down Oxford Road and that was the first 'city pub' they came across. We'd left just before they arrived and heard about it afterwards

Likewise I’d been in the Clarence earlier but it got done later. I was surprised the Clarence got turned over cos I was always a bit fearful of some of the lads in the Clarence, and that’s as a Blue. I believe most of the boys had left the Clarence and gone somewhere else before Boro hit it (that was the story anyway, no one liked to admit one of their top pubs had been done over)

 

[BlueRockape]

And the use of Stanley knives at football.

But as I recall it took a Leeds fan to tape two blades together.
So they couldn't stich it properly and it left a bigger scar