Manchester’s Changing Skyline

LangleyBlue1970 said:
Seen all these nutty conspiracy theories online. If that was the case there would be an enquiry as to how said building has burnt down after rejection of said proposal.

Why is every event these days a conspiracy?
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because people do burn down places for insurance, planning issues, spite etc


it happens so not as far fetched as other conspiracies
 
Fuck me, I don’t know if this me me approaching the FOC group on here, but im
Used to things happening just because they’ve happened. How can someone get away with burning something down because they were refused whatever, and then something gets built in its place? I thought I was savvy!
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Fuck me, I don’t know if this me me approaching the FOC group on here, but im
Used to things happening just because they’ve happened. How can someone get away with burning something down because they were refused whatever, and then something gets built in its place? I thought I was savvy!
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Where money is involved, conspiracy is much more common and likely than these sort of ‘coincidences’!
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Seen all these nutty conspiracy theories online. If that was the case there would be an enquiry as to how said building has burnt down after rejection of said proposal.

Why is every event these days a conspiracy?
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I don’t think it’s just these days. Isn’t there a conspiracy about Neil Armstrong being on the moon?
 
Toney’s bookie said:
Where money is involved, conspiracy is much more common and likely than these sort of ‘coincidences’!
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Getting that now, but how can someone now build there what they were refused, after this historic building all of a sudden burns down? Surely it’s too highlighted now to build on?
 
I snapped the building last year
 

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LangleyBlue1970 said:
Getting that now, but how can someone now build there what they were refused, after this historic building all of a sudden burns down? Surely it’s too highlighted now to build on?
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Planning permission had been granted.

Now it will likely have to go in again given the exiting proposal:

Description of Proposals

Permission is sought for the partial demolition of the Hotspur Press Complex and
redevelopment of the site for PBSA with ground floor commercial or community uses.
The development would comprise a part 4/5-storey and part 37-storey building, with
a parapet level and a basement.

The interiors of the 1801 mill and 1882 curved wing would be removed. The original
façade of the 1801 mill building and original c1902 Percy Brothers signage would be
sensitivity repaired and restored. All facades to the curved 1882 wing would be
retained and repaired. New windows would be installed in the retained elevations that
reflect the existing fenestration.

The north elevation of the 1801 building could become unstable during construction
as a result of previous alterations. Consequently, it would be dismantled and
reconstructed like-for-like. All the single-storey sheds to the east, north and west
would be demolished.

The c1860s ground floor perimeter wall on Cambridge Street/Gloucester Street
would be carefully dismantled and the bricks salvaged if possible and rebuilt. This
would ensure that the large machinery required during construction could operate.
The herringbone brick details above each rebuilt bay would be structurally supported
using Corten. When reinstated this feature would open-up the site to create
connections. The reconstruction would use a traditional lime mortar. The reveals of
the openings would be lined with weathered Corten steel.
Elements of the roof of the 1882 building would be retained to provide sheltered
outside space
 
Corky said:
Planning permission had been granted.

Now it will likely have to go in again given the exiting proposal:

Description of Proposals

Permission is sought for the partial demolition of the Hotspur Press Complex and
redevelopment of the site for PBSA with ground floor commercial or community uses.
The development would comprise a part 4/5-storey and part 37-storey building, with
a parapet level and a basement.

The interiors of the 1801 mill and 1882 curved wing would be removed. The original
façade of the 1801 mill building and original c1902 Percy Brothers signage would be
sensitivity repaired and restored. All facades to the curved 1882 wing would be
retained and repaired. New windows would be installed in the retained elevations that
reflect the existing fenestration.

The north elevation of the 1801 building could become unstable during construction
as a result of previous alterations. Consequently, it would be dismantled and
reconstructed like-for-like. All the single-storey sheds to the east, north and west
would be demolished.

The c1860s ground floor perimeter wall on Cambridge Street/Gloucester Street
would be carefully dismantled and the bricks salvaged if possible and rebuilt. This
would ensure that the large machinery required during construction could operate.
The herringbone brick details above each rebuilt bay would be structurally supported
using Corten. When reinstated this feature would open-up the site to create
connections. The reconstruction would use a traditional lime mortar. The reveals of
the openings would be lined with weathered Corten steel.
Elements of the roof of the 1882 building would be retained to provide sheltered
outside space
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A lot of cost in dismantling and rebuilding the original parts though.

now they are cinder it is probaby imposible

Now a big glass shiny generic tower can probably replace it
 
So who would be behind the arson, who would do it and would there be cctv? Things can’t just burn down in a city centre full of cctv. If it did, where would the thorough investigation be to see how the fire started?
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
So who would be behind the arson, who would do it and would there be cctv? Things can’t just burn down in a city centre full of cctv. If it did, where would the thorough investigation be to see how the fire started?
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I'm guessing at asylum seeking transsexual terrorists;)
 
Marklr said:
I'm guessing at asylum seeking transsexual terrorists;)
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Ha, but I’m serious. This is all over the socials and news, so if it is a case of brown envelopes, given its exposure, how can they get away with it without cctv and a full investigation happening, and especially if the result is the desired building being built there?
 
Seemed to be a lot of fires in ancoats before the City of Manchester Stadium was built...i might be mis-remembering but i think charlie roberts olde gaffe went up.
 
jimharri said:
I know I've been critical of a lot of the new buildings that have sprung up in the last, say, 20 years. To me, they're largely bland, soulless boxes. But I actually don't mind that one. I like the lattice effect.
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You can certainly tell its not a Simpson Haugh. Nice to see some new ideas.
 
Terrible to see the images, I did history at Manchester Uni and our lecturer took us all down there to show us the building and emphasised the historical importance of the place and with that went on there, to Manchester and the wider world in the development of our society. I loved the way it stood defiantly, a ramshackle misfit amongst the steel and glass of progress.

A pretty iconic building, and the fact they've been trying for years to rip it down for new developments isn't lost on many. I hope there is a thorough investigation here, must be loads of CCTV available nowadays.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Seen all these nutty conspiracy theories online. If that was the case there would be an enquiry as to how said building has burnt down after rejection of said proposal.

Why is every event these days a conspiracy?
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Sometimes the truth is right there in front of you but like you say everything is a conspiracy, it's fucking annoying.
 
eastmanc said:
He's not still there is he?
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No, but Elvis is...

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