PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Prestwich_Blue said:
I find it difficult to believe that they'll write up all the proceedings completely dispassionately then say, "Right, what do we think? Proven or not proven?" for every single instance.

It's more likely they'll have pretty well made their minds up by the end of the hearing in most cases. There may be some debates about levels of proof or the weight of some of the evidence and going back to the evidence presented but there are only 3 substantive charges, plus the issue of non-cooperation so it should be pretty clear to them whether the PL has made its case to a sufficient level of cogency by the end of the hearing.

I've had a second source unconnected to my original source tell me that the broad outcome was clear 6 months ago, even if the formal verdict wasn't. Is the delay due to attempts at damage limitation? Are the departures of Levy & Lewis connected or coincidental?

We'll find out soon hopefully.
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This is only my thinking am probably wrong but you may be right in it might be more to do with damage limitation.

Maybe those sackings that’s what they are for me because they didn’t see it coming is part of what we requested if we are found innocent and instead of us suing them we just asked what we want them to do, then when it’s all released as we will want it, them apologising us partly satisfied happy with what changing going ahead and we have put a line through it!
 
johnevans said:
Mind, my Old Man introduced my brothers, sisters and I to both City and Puccini et al at an early age, so thanks to him for that.
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We never really found the right position for him though. Said he was a midfield maestro or conductor but he was the Italian Rico Lewis. Couldn't conduct the 53 bus.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I find it difficult to believe that they'll write up all the proceedings completely dispassionately then say, "Right, what Is the delay due to attempts at damage limitation? Are the departures of Levy & Lewis connected or coincidental?

We'll find out soon hopefully.
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Was your new thread regarding Khaldoon pulled yesterday because of the title or was the content a wind up as well?
There's nothing showing on Companies House for his 7 City related directorships so presume a wind-up.
 
KS55 said:
I think the panel are just plodding through the drafting process, nobody knows anything except them and nothing is going on in the background. Boring eh? Fertile ground for baseless speculation.
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Corruption, dodgy deals , backhanders etc that's the way of the world my friend.
You're probably a scammers delight
 
mancboy said:
Our confidence can also be determined by common sense, reason and the input of those with greater legal knowledge than us.

My take is now and always has been they had nothing substantial because if they did the need for all the separate charges across separate seasons would not have been necessary, put it this way if the police have got you bang to rights on a murder charge they dont bother with the fact that you were speeding on the way to the crime, if the evidence isnt there to convict you they will try throwing enough shit at a wall to hope something sticks which is exactly what the pl have done.

Also another common sense reason to know that it is a smear campaign and that they dont have anything significant is that quite simply if they did have the evidence to prove anything then there wouldnt be a need for 115 charges as the story would write itself in the press but the fact that they have gone with that many charges is just for the smear tactics because 3 charges isnt a story that plays well in the press, the optics of 115 for the pl and its masters are far more useful.

It has been nothing but a sad smear campaign from day one because the red cartel and its yank owners couldnt get their heads round the fact that not just little city but little city owned by arabs no less had not just beaten but obliterated their achievements by being being smarter, more innovative and better run than they ever were and by doing that proved that there is nothing special about any of them and that shook them to the core and this is the last death throes of an archaic dinosaur who hasnt caught up to the fact that its time has passed.

As our byline goes, we're man city the future is ours.
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Exactly this & the smear campaign is the reason Masters & the fat slag Brittain should go. I’m sick of people thinking the board didn’t rubber stamp the smear campaign.
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
Was your new thread regarding Khaldoon pulled yesterday because of the title or was the content a wind up as well?
There's nothing showing on Companies House for his 7 City related directorships so presume a wind-up.
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The content was factual, which is why I was annoyed about it being pulled. Nearly 50 emails from Companies House to support this.

Look at City Football Services or City Football Marketing on the CH website and you'll see a new set of names. The heavyweights are still in place higher up the chain (although still no sign of Soriano).
 
johnevans said:
Mind, my Old Man introduced my brothers, sisters and I to both City and Puccini et al at an early age, so thanks to him for that.

Many connections between the highbrow trilling and the 'working class opera' we all know and love so much.. I mean, for example, who could forget the flying winger for Bradford City in the early 60s who performed at Valley Parade of an afternoon then sang tenor leads at The Alhambra of an evening, Les O'Pavarotti..? He was nicknamed 'The Bantam of the Opera'*..

(* All right, all right, I'll get me coat..)
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Oh FFS :-)
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The content was factual, which is why I was annoyed about it being pulled. Nearly 50 emails from Companies House to support this.

Look at City Football Services or City Football Marketing on the CH website and you'll see a new set of names. The heavyweights are still in place higher up the chain (although still no sign of Soriano).
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That was funny af :)

Good work.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The content was factual, which is why I was annoyed about it being pulled. Nearly 50 emails from Companies House to support this.

Look at City Football Services or City Football Marketing on the CH website and you'll see a new set of names. The heavyweights are still in place higher up the chain (although still no sign of Soriano).
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Did u at least get the gig at talksport?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The content was factual, which is why I was annoyed about it being pulled. Nearly 50 emails from Companies House to support this.

Look at City Football Services or City Football Marketing on the CH website and you'll see a new set of names. The heavyweights are still in place higher up the chain (although still no sign of Soriano).
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It was and is showing as 7 out of 8 active directorships on companycheck and thats not updated yet. I only skimmed on CH and appeared the same but can now see the 2 that have changed. Cheers.
 
Milesvk said:
If positive verdict it has me thinking, could the feeling be up there with 93:20, Istanbul, 3-2 villa or will it be a different feeling of joy.
I personally think its absolutely huge in a way like the Dickov goal, had that not happened could the club have done a forest, sheff wed and languish in the doldrums for years and possibly the club would not be what they are today.
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I heard (and thought it was true) that David Bernstein had said that if we had not gor promotion that year the move to the new stadium would be off - No new stadium and I think no Sheik Mansour investment - so yes
 
halfcenturyup said:
The realistic side of me says @slbsn has as little idea as the rest of us. And I say that with the greatest respect. Of course, I could have little idea of what I am talking about .....
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We don't even know the specifics of the charges, although we can make (hopefully) intelligent guesses. Stefan and I have argued over the relative significance of the related party issue. We just don't know.
 
Milesvk said:
Stefan stated some weeks ago his theory that we could see verdict within next few weeks and he would be surprised if it ran into October without a verdict. I asked him would his surprise turn to concern of a positive outcome for us if it went into October without a verdict, he said yes.
So the positive side of me is thinking the verdict will be out this week.
The negative side is thinking we could be in the shit, which then leads me to a optimism side of could we be negotiating a deal, hence the delay.

If positive verdict it has me thinking, could the feeling be up there with 93:20, Istanbul, 3-2 villa or will it be a different feeling of joy.
I personally think its absolutely huge in a way like the Dickov goal, had that not happened could the club have done a forest, sheff wed and languish in the doldrums for years and possibly the club would not be what they are today.
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Context is everything...
slbsn said:
Much to everyone's annoyance my view remains sooner the better for City. So yes I am more concerned the longer it goes but we don't know for sure what is happening. One of the three could be very busy on a trial or another matter. Someone might be ill. Or whatever. So it is not definitive.
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