Club Badge (merged)

Apologies, that was poorly written, clearly, I don't have an idea what the wider global 'fans' think about our badge, my point was that the club has a duty to appeal to every type of fan not just those long standing, been there since summerbee fans.

No worries mate, I was only playing with you.

I think you're right that we should take the wider fan base's view in to account. It's a difficult one to know how it should be weighted though.

Take yourself as an example, 25 years of going home and away, should some kid in Guatemala who started liking City last xmas because we're his favourite team on his new FIFA game have just as big a say as you? Personally, I don't think he should.

It's an unfortunate by product of this consultation that some people are going to end up with a badge they don't want and didn't vote for. But I think the best we can hope for is that the final design pleases as many people as possible, and pisses off the least amount of people as possible.

Fingers crossed we don't end up with an Everton or Melbourne situation.
 
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Although I am a supporter of the rose or rivers I also think that your method of voting would probably be
fairest to all. Well thought out.

Thanks mate. We're never going to please everyone, and unfortunately everyone can't have their first choice.

Letting people rate any final designs 1st, 2nd and 3rd would at least mean it's guaranteed a huge majority would end up with their first or second choice, and the least popular design would definitely not be used.
 
So you want a vote gerrymandered to ensure you get the decision you personally want.

Increasingly irritating how a few of you in this badge debate seem to think you have the finger on the pulse of our core support, when in fact all you are sharing is your own views on the topic dressed up as speaking for the core support.

When a vote presents a result you don't like it's due to rags or Johnny come lately's.

Well, having been a season ticket holder uninterrupted for over 25 years and with over 13000 loyalty points I consider myself to be well and truly part of this 'true' support who's opinion you seem to think carries more weight than other supporters. I can categorically state that I do not want to see the club go backwards in its badge design and whatever design the club comes up with should be new, fresh and show an evolution on the current badge imo. A badge that will represent the club for the future not hark back to the past. In my opinion a re-designed Eagle should be a fundamental part of any new design. I do not want to see us follow nycfc or Melbourne city with a round badge. I want us to be distinct and individual from the rest of CFG.

That said, my feeling is that the club has a vision of standardising all CFG clubs with a round badge which to me is just boring and lacks imagination. Hopefully I'm wrong.

However, this constant assumption that you and others of your ilk have some kind of knowledge of core supporters views or that the core supports views carry more weight than any other fan is complete nonsense.

In case it had escaped your attention the club is trying to grow the brand and appeal to people outside of our core support to grow our fanbase. It's great that fans are being engaged but all fans have a right to a view and no fans opinion is any better or more valid than any others.
well said ,its the bluemoon massive, thankfully this forum is only a small part of what is a very large worldwide fan base,whats the obsession with harping back ,its bring this back ,bring that back ,why can we not just
If either of these were selected as a new badge there would be no point in moving away from the current monstrosity
Clearly, if that is what the 'majority' want then ce la vie. As someone who likes the distinctiveness of the Eagle then whilst disappointing I couldn't argue against the club's choice.

I'm just just not so sure that two fans on a bluemoon podcast really proves the point that the majority view is a round badge.

Clearly 51% currently on the MEN poll want to keep the Eagle, but that doesn't necessarily mean they don't want a round a round badge, however, the choice given on the consultation doesn't give the option of both which would indicate on a 'valid' survey that over half want the Eagle.

Clearly that tells me you are only speaking to a generation of fans who have an affinity to the old badge but if you actually get out among the wider fanbase and globally there is widespread support for the Eagle.

Time will tell and I trust our club to make the right choice for the mcfc brand and not pander to a small hard core support who can't let go of the past.
Which badge do you actually like
Which badge do you actually like
 
its like driving miss daisy,on this forum sometimes,"main rd this main rd that, bring back bananas, the badge of my youth ,lancashire red roses," a whole generation have grown up with the current badge, the average 20 year old only knows the present badge ,if they are the 51% majority so be it ,
 
its like driving miss daisy,on this forum sometimes,"main rd this main rd that, bring back bananas, the badge of my youth ,lancashire red roses," a whole generation have grown up with the current badge, the average 20 year old only knows the present badge ,if they are the 51% majority so be it ,

57% on that MEN survey voted for a return to the round badge. Surely we shouldn't discount their votes because they grew up with bananas, roses and Maine Rd?
 
...Clearly that tells me you are only speaking to a generation of fans who have an affinity to the old badge but if you actually get out among the wider fanbase and globally there is widespread support for the Eagle.Time will tell and I trust our club to make the right choice for the mcfc brand and not pander to a small hard core support who can't let go of the past.
Your'e right there - us older fans are not happy about the strangled eagle, we've put up with it for far too long already
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Which badge do you actually like


I've taken part in the online consultation and suggested that we should have a modern take of the 1930's onward badge, ship, gold stripes on maroon background, shield, circle

I'm 52 and have seen four badges starting with the gold stripes on maroon, the COA, rose and current
I've always detested our current badge, or should I say the eagle, stars and motto

If the badge in 97 had been changed just to the middle bit, shield, ship, stripes and MCFC I don't think anyone would be arsed about a change
 
I'm 39 so have had half my life with the round rose badge and half with the eagle, what pin badges and shirts do I get? the round retro badge, only have the eagle badge on kit shirts I have had bought for me, never took to it and can't see me changing now
 
This is why this process is so unique. Everyone gets to share their viewpoint. Let's hope people have listened to the information presented by Gary James, the club and various others on here, but if not it's still as valid an opinion as anybody else's.

From there the club will collate the info, listen to responses and decide which way the club will go with our new badge.

What an amazing and unprecedented opportunity given to us by the club.
 
This is why this process is so unique. Everyone gets to share their viewpoint. Let's hope people have listened to the information presented by Gary James, the club and various others on here, but if not it's still as valid an opinion as anybody else's.
From there the club will collate the info, listen to responses and decide which way the club will go with our new badge.
What an amazing and unprecedented opportunity given to us by the club.
Let's just hope the bird gets
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its like driving miss daisy,on this forum sometimes,"main rd this main rd that, bring back bananas, the badge of my youth ,lancashire red roses," a whole generation have grown up with the current badge, the average 20 year old only knows the present badge ,if they are the 51% majority so be it ,

Agreed certain people should stop feeling so over privileged every other supporter has a right to their say too, I feel like telling them just give your bloody opinion and stop shitting on everyone else's(isn't a forceful lack of tolerance of others opinions and feelings technically bigotry anyway?) .

I don't get why anyone would want the rose on there myself I could have said it looks shit, its red and it's something that the England rugby team use being a national emblem of England and spent ages trying to drive my own opinion to convince those that like it they are wrong etc but "I dont like the rose" is quite enough imo.
I know I mentioned it before but only in the context of if you are going to say the Eagle has nothing to do with Manchester the same could be said of the rose. If it ends up being on there I wont cry like a spoiled little brat about it though.

I just find if you scratch beyond the surface of what some people are saying it's just excuses, they just want rid of it because they like the old badge better end of why fancy it up more than that with superficial meanings for why it shouldn't be there and everyone else is wrong?

From this thread we can safely put to bed some myths about the eagle though and now we can say:

a) Its not just Jonny come latelys/Students/Kids born yesterday that like it. There's people who have been supporting 30-40+ years saying they like the eagle and plenty of them(petty attempts to shame them into changing their mind is pointless, nobody is that weak willed anyway surely?).

b) It is part of our history as a football club... as I said that's what we are a football club, soon to be global if we aren't considered that already, we aren't Manchester Council we stand for more than just a location. Also it's a sport, sports are meant to be fun and not boring... I'm sorry to make fun but by the sounds of some of you it reads like a parody of Boring-James Milner... "nothing too colourful, could we have it black and white? That eagle's a bit to flamboyant isn't it? Yeh that has to go. No sharp edges on that font it looks too dangerous"

How long will this take to decide btw? I can see it's going to get worse if it drags on too long haha. I just hope they can come up with something that looks slick and modern and keeps the majority happy.
 
57% on that MEN survey voted for a return to the round badge. Surely we shouldn't discount their votes because they grew up with bananas, roses and Maine Rd?
sorry didnt put my point across very well , we are part of the most forward thinking club in world football i for one wont be suprised if the new badge is nothing like any of the old ones or the present one for that matter , a smattering of respect to our history,but a huge eye on the future will be the new badge ,
 

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