EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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Yaya_Tony said:
And what about the rest of the uk voters wanting to remain??
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He probably caused confusion amongst those too. If they now think that if we remain in and for whatever reason Turkey get fast tracked he hasn't committed to stopping them. I'd be concerned at that. @kippaxwarrior may think it an unnecessary question, maybe it was, but it was asked and should've been dealt with better than it wa. All it has done us confirm the confusion. He should have been confident to say Yes I will veto Turkey joining IfF I am asked the question.

I think Yphrunts is probably quite close to the reason why he never did. After all he's only got what... three years maximum left. The liklihood of him being asked the question is remote (or is it?) so should've been easy enough to answer.
 
SWP's back said:
As I say, big fan of economic migration. If people lose jobs to those that have moved 1,000 miles to a strange country then they need to look at themselves. Not those coming to do the jobs they see as below them.
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That's not the core of the issue. It's that we have a minimum wage and benefits that are far better than anything they can get at or near home. That means dickheads like Mike Ashley can take advantage of this and impose working conditions that are completely unacceptable in a civilised society. People saying that the EU "protects workers' rights" can't explain why places like Shirebrook manage to exist.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
That's not the core of the issue. It's that we have a minimum wage and benefits that are far better than anything they can get at or near home. That means dickheads like Mike Ashley can take advantage of this and impose working conditions that are completely unacceptable in a civilised society. People saying that the EU "protects workers' rights" can't explain why places like Shirebrook manage to exist.
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Do you honestly think, with a Tory government in situ, that workers' rights will improve if we leave the EU?
 
Yaya_Tony said:
They do. Those cunts trying to build a better life for your kids are fighting the good fight.
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Oh ffs. Yes you have kids. People voting out also have kids.

Scouts will still be able to travel around Europe on holiday.

Keeping repeating you're voting for your kids is irrelevant. People voting out are doing so as they think it's better for them and their kids as well.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
That's not the core of the issue. It's that we have a minimum wage and benefits that are far better than anything they can get at or near home. That means dickheads like Mike Ashley can take advantage of this and impose working conditions that are completely unacceptable in a civilised society. People saying that the EU "protects workers' rights" can't explain why places like Shirebrook manage to exist.
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The UK Care Sector collapses without overseas workers. Many indigenous people don't want to do these jobs so the truth is a combination of what you and SWP's back says! We don't have people to do the jobs and some international workers come here for better pay and conditions.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
That's not the core of the issue. It's that we have a minimum wage and benefits that are far better than anything they can get at or near home. That means dickheads like Mike Ashley can take advantage of this and impose working conditions that are completely unacceptable in a civilised society. People saying that the EU "protects workers' rights" can't explain why places like Shirebrook manage to exist.
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I've never said I'm anything other than a capitalist PB. It's why I moved to improve my wage.

The EU doesn't protect workers rights in any way shape or form. I've never said it does.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
The UK Care Sector collapses without overseas workers. Many indigenous people don't want to do these jobs so the truth is a combination of what you and SWP's back says! We don't have people to do the jobs and some international workers come here for better pay and conditions.
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Anyone who thinks immigration won't have to continue at around its present rate, irrespective of how we vote on Thursday, is utterly deluded.
 
SWP's back said:
They have the ability to work anywhere as well.
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Not really.

English is the most common second language in the EU.

So, for example, a Lithunian is more likely to speak English than a UK citizen is to speak Lithuanian. Therefore it is easier for the Lithuanian to work in the UK than vice verse.

There is an issue for how foreign languages are taught in the UK but nonetheless the playing field, from one perspective, is not level.
 
chabal said:
Not really.

English is the most common second language in the EU.

So, for example, a Lithunianis more likely to speak English than a UK citizen is to speak Lithuanian. Therefore it is easier for the Lithuanian to work in the UK than vice verse.

There is an issue for how foreign languages are taught in the UK but nonetheless the playing field, from one perspective, is not level.
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I don't speak a word of Arabic.

That's a lie, I know four words. Inshallah.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
That's not the core of the issue. It's that we have a minimum wage and benefits that are far better than anything they can get at or near home. That means dickheads like Mike Ashley can take advantage of this and impose working conditions that are completely unacceptable in a civilised society. People saying that the EU "protects workers' rights" can't explain why places like Shirebrook manage to exist.
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What Ashley did was even more unacceptable under EU law than British law.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
He probably caused confusion amongst those too. If they now think that if we remain in and for whatever reason Turkey get fast tracked he hasn't committed to stopping them. I'd be concerned at that. @kippaxwarrior may think it an unnecessary question, maybe it was, but it was asked and should've been dealt with better than it wa. All it has done us confirm the confusion. He should have been confident to say Yes I will veto Turkey joining IfF I am asked the question.

I think Yphrunts is probably quite close to the reason why he never did. After all he's only got what... three years maximum left. The liklihood of him being asked the question is remote (or is it?) so should've been easy enough to answer.
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Not sure why you have tagged me this post as I've not posted on this thread for over a week!
 
On Thursday do I vote for the same thing that is wanted by the BNP, UKIP, Britain First, EDL, Farage, Gove, The Sun and Daily Mail ?

Or do I vote the opposite ?

Hmm. Tough one
 
SWP's back said:
I don't speak a word of Arabic.

That's a lie, I know four words. Inshallah.
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Most people, working in countries different from their country of upbringing, have to speak a different language.

For a European English, and therefore the UK, is the easiest alternative.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
On Thursday do I vote for the same thing that is wanted by the BNP, UKIP, Britain First, EDL, Farage, Gove, The Sun and Daily Mail ?

Or do I vote the opposite ?

Hmm. Tough one
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Well done on not thinking for yourself.

At the end of the day, you listen to Bieber so what you vote should be irrelevant.
 
chabal said:
Most people, working in countries different from their country of upbringing, have to speak a different language.

For a European English, and therefore the UK, is the easiest alternative.
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So you think free movement of labour works against the British?
 
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