Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

Akiva said:
The club clearly disagrees.



OK. You are negative.



Oh dear:

Arsenal post match thread





Sounds pretty negative after a game we came from behind to win.

You also posted in the Liverpool, Leicester, Barcelona post match threads, all of them negative. Does someone else have access to your account?



And?

I suppose, as a Blue, you feel it's proper to jump on the pile too, right?



"I wish him well, but he stinks and I hope he wants away because I'm thinking about replacing him with Simeone at the end of the season"



Evidence? What evidence?

You've given me half a fucking season, nothing more. Meanwhile, you've ignored everything from arguments about the squad (aging, declining in overall performance), to length of time it takes to adapt to Pep's style (minimum a year to be expected), to his accomplishments in the past. Who is the one being blind here?



Thank God.
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Changed my mind about posting.

"Thank God" - explains where you're coming from mate - blind faith and a refusal to deal with facts. Bless you.

The Arsenal post is consistent with my opinion of the situation so far. If the facts change I'll change my opinion. Not before.

You seem to be unable to deal with evidence and resort to name calling.

Negativity? Positivity? Bollocks. You're just refusing to deal with the arguments and are hiding behind your name calling distractions.
 
FFS lets just get behind the guy is it. Let him be judged after his tenure with us, whether it be 6 months, 6 years or in 2 decades time. In footballing term hes only been with us 5 minutes.

Im not judging him yet and im behind him just like i have been with all the other managers we have had in my time, even frank clark!

we have waited years for him to come, so lets try and buy into what hes trying to achieve. If he fails then the club will still continue and we try again.
if he gets it right then we will hopefully be reading this thread in the Classic section in years to come thinking how silly some of us have been.

im hoping its the latter!
 
Seems a bit unecessary to me.

Look, I hope he stays here for 4, 5 or even 20 years as this will mean that he's made a success of the job and that we've really become one of the best teams in Europe, but... what if he doesn't? What if, at the end of next season or the season after we've not progressed as we should? Success is not guaranteed and that is in no way a judgement on Pep's managerial abilities as I do belive he's a great manager, however sometimes things just don't work out.

Why not wait until the end of next season, when we can see how things are going, to give him a new contract? Why does it have to be the end of this one when we quite possibly may have had what could be viewed as a relatively disappointing season? If it's to "send a message" out as some people have suggested, I ask who to? The media? Why give a fuck what they think or say (the club usually doesn't). Players? Frankly anyone signing this Summer isn't going to give a shit whether Pep has 2 years or 3 years left on his contract.

As I said,I just don't see the need for it. If it doesn't work out the only thing that is going to happen is that it will cost us twice as much to dispense of his services.
 
Akiva said:
The club clearly disagrees.



OK. You are negative.



Oh dear:

Arsenal post match thread





Sounds pretty negative after a game we came from behind to win.

You also posted in the Liverpool, Leicester, Barcelona post match threads, all of them negative. Does someone else have access to your account?



And?

I suppose, as a Blue, you feel it's proper to jump on the pile too, right?



"I wish him well, but he stinks and I hope he wants away because I'm thinking about replacing him with Simeone at the end of the season"



Evidence? What evidence?

You've given me half a fucking season, nothing more. Meanwhile, you've ignored everything from arguments about the squad (aging, declining in overall performance), to length of time it takes to adapt to Pep's style (minimum a year to be expected), to his accomplishments in the past. Who is the one being blind here?



Thank God.
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Like.
 
Heard the very same thing on Thursday. Great news.

I really hope he reverts to what was so successful at the start of the season.

Get a few more Pep type players in over the summer, have a full pre season and get them doing things his way.
 
Taximania said:
By definition the only way a goalkeeper can get to make his save is by defensive error.
I would maybe expect a better save ratio than 14 conceded from 22.
He remains a wonderful distributer of the ball and for that I find no fault.

Fundemently speaking the main objective of any keeper has to be stopping the ball from entering the net,this and only this and then a pinch of your sweeper keepering as a sideline.
Joe was the antithesis of Bravo and could certainly stop a shot albeit with limited distribution.
I would expect a keeper not firing 100% to be rotated with reserve keeper to the fore.
Willy get your kit in the wash your on for the spuds. You earn your place in the squad it's not an expected privildge.
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Agree with the second part of your post, but the first bit, that's not entirely true, a great bit of skill or movement and passing can create a shooting chance. More often than not at the moment the chances we concede are from complete howlers or a ball over the top.
 
Taximania said:
By definition the only way a goalkeeper can get to make his save is by defensive error.
I would maybe expect a better save ratio than 14 conceded from 22
He remains a wonderful distributer of the ball and for that I find no fault.

Fundemently speaking the main objective of any keeper has to be stopping the ball from entering the net,this and only this and then a pinch of your sweeper keepering as a sideline.
Joe was the antithesis of Bravo and could certainly stop a shot albeit with limited distribution.
I would expect a keeper not firing 100% to be rotated with reserve keeper to the fore.
Willy get your kit in the wash your on for the spuds. You earn your place in the squad it's not an expected privildge.
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Actually, I've even found myself wondering about this. He is virtually totally right-footed. If he gets the ball on his left foot, he dares do nothing with it. He takes time to transfer it to his right foot, and by that time, the opposition's forwards are closing down on our full backs such that when they actually get the thing, they've got no time to think, they've got to make a panic pass, as often as not, straight back to him. But he himself is being closed down at this point, so that he has to hoof it. Count the number of times this happens, and I think you'll see that it's frequent. I'm not getting on Bravo's case here (at least not for this - his shot-stopping is another matter), the vast majority of footballers are one-footed as far as accurate passing is concerned, but the fact is that even this building it from the back is not working as smoothly as it should.
It worked at Barca because the full backs immediately had one of the deep midfielders who had taken up space, to pass the ball to with one touch. And that got the whole Barca machine rolling forward. That isn't happening nearly as often as it ought to with us.

Just looking at the thread title, we've drifted a long way from it. Look, Pep's here for three years, minimum, if he chooses to be. The only way he'd be sacked would be if we drifted into mid-table, or worse, and that just ain't going to happen. The chairman and the sheik are long-term strategic planners, with an eye to the big picture. Do you really they would have invested in that footballing academy, second to none, if that weren't the case? They courted this man for three years. He's not going anywhere. His is just about the safest job in the PL. Certainly safer than Mourinho's. Not that that will mean they're at all happy with what's going on at present. When did we last get beaten 4-0 in the league? And by a mid-table side at that? Short-term, then, unhappy bunnies (like all of us). Medium to long-term: have faith.
 
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blueparrot said:
Agree with the second part of your post, but the first bit, that's not entirely true, a great bit of skill or movement and passing can create a shooting chance. More often than not at the moment the chances we concede are from complete howlers or a ball over the top.
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Wrong choice of word sideline.
I meant secondary to ball stopping.
 
Gray said:
Sorry but he has lost all credibility with me over his baffling decision to replace Hart with Bravo.

If I was the Sheikh I would be looking around for a replacement already.
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This has to be a wind up. Either that, or it's one of the most ridiculous posts ever on Bluemoon.
Cheesy said:
Seems a bit unecessary to me.

Look, I hope he stays here for 4, 5 or even 20 years as this will mean that he's made a success of the job and that we've really become one of the best teams in Europe, but... what if he doesn't? What if, at the end of next season or the season after we've not progressed as we should? Success is not guaranteed and that is in no way a judgement on Pep's managerial abilities as I do belive he's a great manager, however sometimes things just don't work out.

Why not wait until the end of next season, when we can see how things are going, to give him a new contract? Why does it have to be the end of this one when we quite possibly may have had what could be viewed as a relatively disappointing season? If it's to "send a message" out as some people have suggested, I ask who to? The media? Why give a fuck what they think or say (the club usually doesn't). Players? Frankly anyone signing this Summer isn't going to give a shit whether Pep has 2 years or 3 years left on his contract.

As I said,I just don't see the need for it. If it doesn't work out the only thing that is going to happen is that it will cost us twice as much to dispense of his services.
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Maybe it's come about following a discussion between Pep and the club where Pep has said he needs more than 3 years and he wants the club's assurance that he's got as long as it needs? Maybe it's not for the media at all, but the media coverage is simply an added bonus?
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
It worked at Barca because the full backs immediately had one of the deep midfielders who had taken up space, to pass the ball to with one touch. And that got the whole Barca machine rolling forward. That isn't happening nearly as often as it ought to with us.
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Somebody posted a link a few pages back. here.
Jazzman said:
There is a great post in the post match thread illustrating what our problem is at the moment:

Everton v City post match

Hope I got it right with the link to it. We are really, really close to something good, but as you can read there very small mistakes make the difference. Playing Pep-football is really, really difficult.
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just watching this shows how frustrating it must be for Bravo and Pep. he does his job but instead of passing up field through the press he keeps getting it back. Until we see this working with Peps players it's hard to make a judgement.
 
Benarbia said:
Don't worry Bill I didn't choose to ignore this like everyone else. Completely agree with you here. Having the Balls to make those cut throat decisions are what define you and he doesn't make them
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Exactly,he does not seem to want to make those decisions,you only have to look at that clown in goal to see evidence of that,on present form a contract extension rumour seems well out of place,so forgive me if i treat it as exactly that-an internet forum rumour without any foundation whatsoever
 
GortonBlue62 said:
My posting history is consistent and I stand by it.

My definition of a great manager is one who can take a group of players and produce a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts.

I prefer a manager who can deliver results to one with a philosophy and an idea that there is a right way to play football.

To repeat, for the umpteenth time, if Pep delivers, great (this is the ideal scenario), if he doesn't he has to go.

No one person is bigger than our club.
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Nail on head
 
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