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The issue isn't about negativity but safety. The surge and crushing of fans was predictable and avoidable.

Missed 15 minutes. Utter shambles. I don't ever slate the club but M1 was border line dangerous. When they open the gate there was a surge forward and I'm surprised no one was injured in the crush.

No. We have our own songs and I'd rather not copycat Celtic. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Has anybody mentioned how poor match of the day presented the game? Somehow gave utd a chance of winning. I know I should expect it but that was unreal. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

I don't know what the fuss is. Sure, it's not the kit I'd hoped for but it's not that bad honestly. Worst of it is wrong colour sleeves and I can live with that for a season. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Not what I'd choose but they're not dire either. Need to wait and see what the finished article looks and feels like. Top badge, top manager better have a poor top to keep life entertaining! Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

I'm only reading this because of the gif. I need to know the events that have transpired for the unfortunate cow to be booted. I've no idea what the rest of the thread is about (and don't care either) but what is the back story to the bovine booting? Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Paulo Wanchop

Worst is the laser blue kit from a few years ago.

Wow, this is still going!

I personally have never heard of Stoke and doubt they are a football team.

Two hours of Downton in return for the match boxing day. That's something to get upset about, the badge is fine.

It is better than the eagle in my opinion. Nobody is going to get their ideal badge. I'd just like to thank the club for at least trying. Move on to footballing matters I say.

If I could sum us up in one word it'd be "slow". I started counting the Arsenal players when we were attacking. I guess you could say we dominated possession but I think in reality we lost a tactical battle and played at their pace.

Last one with the ship and letters looks great. One of my favorites.

I was optimistic to begin with but I'm not sure now. Please no eagle circle hybrid, I honestly can't see why anyone would think it looks good. If we don't update an older badge I'd rather keep the terrible badge we have at present and I'll go back to silently hating the thing. I'm surprised...

Wow. Go to love the TM in the corner. Has city not challenged this?

I have come to realize that, whatever happens, someone will be annoyed. To that end I hope city go whole heartedly for one side or the other. I'm beginning to see that trying to please everyone will be the worst possible course of action. Either modernize a previous badge no eagle or keep the...

I like that too. The gold really stands out. :-) In my opinion that badge is dreadful. I'm not seeing why the eagle has to be included at all. I understand that anyone under 20 will have grown up with it and their opinions are as important as mine but I still want it gone. For me it lacks...

I quite like these as an alternative.