24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2023/24

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vanchi said:
the amount of crap that was written about him in the match thread was record breaking.

it was an unbelievable ocean of verbal diarrhoea. classy af. i actually feel sorry for him, less than 6 months and so so so much hate from so many city fans.

but! there’s still hope, transfer season is not over, there’s still time for a petition, maybe a crowdfunding event to send him home on some cheap flight.
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Please dont take the match day thread as a general opinion, absolute depression central on there when we play as it seems everyone is shite! Josko was sloppy at times last night but overall i think hes a great first season for us so far and will only get better!
 
He still lacks understanding with his fellow players a little. For example, he made what I thought was a good switch to Kyle on the other side, but Kyle was stagnant not expecting it, or a shorter pass to Oscar, but again, Oscar wasn't expecting it. He has a great vision (that chance he created for himself with a run that got blocked in the end, wow) for a defender but needs to improve his decision-making when to use it a little. Otherwise, solid defensively, making the pitch big offensively. That being said, Oscar and Jeremy were not the biggest help for him. I feel like he does better with Jack at LW. Overall, he is having an excellent 1st season.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
The match thread is full of fucking loons, nobody serious is on there when a game is on.

He's not a LB though, Pep is integrating him into the team in his first season.
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Why is Pep "integrating him into the team" by playing him at LB (when Ake is often available to do that) rather than playing him in his natural CB position? It makes zero sense and must be impacting Gvardiol's confidence as well as encouraging hate from fans.

Pep's doing some seriously weird shit so far this season. He needs to sort it out.
 
I see too many little mistakes causing trouble with our high line. As I think he has a really high technical level in all departments the problem lies more between his ears.
He wants too much, is a bit rash and not cool enough.
Defensively, he is stepping out to attack the ball and is losing position and easily bypassed. (That's why I wouldn't want those mistakes closer to our goal as a CB! Dias and Aké are rock solid constantly).

He's top class in tight spaces and has a good vision for passes as well,
but his final pass or shot on goal is often mistimed/misplaced and there he's too rash again, not cool enough. He is a little afraid to make the mistake - and the mistake is there. Golf players know exactly what I mean.

He's a complete package with a very positive team mentality.
I think more coolness and confidence will come with age. He could turn into a great CB when he's in his mid 20s.
Patience should pay off.
 
vanchi said:
the amount of crap that was written about him in the match thread was record breaking.

it was an unbelievable ocean of verbal diarrhoea. classy af. i actually feel sorry for him, less than 6 months and so so so much hate from so many city fans.

but! there’s still hope, transfer season is not over, there’s still time for a petition, maybe a crowdfunding event to send him home on some cheap flight.
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I made one comment about his passing being poor last night. I’ll stand by that as I’ve seen much better from him already this season.

He’s obviously very good and will continue to improve as he learns how to be a Pep full back.
 
Why is Pep not allowed to the questioned?

He might be the goat but he’s still human, fallible and entitled to experiment. He’s not going to get it right 100% of the time.

Shutting down people for legitimately questioning Pep’s decision making with players (not just with Gvardiol but with others) is genuinely stupid.
 
It's his first season. I heard all the same bullshit about rodri. It's probably the same people. Probably the same 10 or 12 people who know fuck all about footballers. (And no I'm not saying you can't criticise before you throw that victim card in).

Hmm I think I have a bee in my bonnet today
 
Fine for fans to have opinions on players on tactics but bottom line Pep plays players in a position for a reason and to be honest he knows more about football than us all
 
I've come here to try and find the 4 posters who voted him MOTM last night ;)

Not a full back, needs a chance at LCB
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
It's his first season. I heard all the same bullshit about rodri. It's probably the same people. Probably the same 10 or 12 people who know fuck all about footballers. (And no I'm not saying you can't criticise before you throw that victim card in).

Hmm I think I have a bee in my bonnet today
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I didn’t watch the game yesterday as we don’t have that streaming service and was forced the follow the game on social media. The one thing I’m surprised by is the fact he’s blamed for everyone else’s mistakes - he’s the reason Bobb and Doku aren’t excelling, he made Kyle look bad, etc. All his social media birthday posts this week were filled with, you need to be better, Bring back Laporte, play Sergio. Some of that had to affect his confidence - but if you suggest that then it’s, “if he can’t take it, he shouldn’t be on the team.” Because realistically, he could play others so Pep must see something.
 
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