Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Tim of the Oak said:
I think Boris will be clearer on whether schools will open on March 8. Beyond that I’m not too confident either. He might just specify the order in which restrictions will be eased without getting a timetable.

Obviously social distancing, hand sanitizer use and mask wearing in supermarkets will be with us for many months.
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Im used to wearing masks now, EVERY ONE should sanitise anyway so hopefully that will stay.
I just need a little bit of carrot rather than stick
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
Give it a rest. You are becoming very boring.
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I'm as desperate for this to be over as much as anyone but to hear so many opposite views coming from the cabinet is demoralising. They should all be on the same page or risk some people not taking any more notice of them as appeared on the ITV news tonight. Some dickhead was interviewed and said he didn't care and was going on holiday anyway
 
mosssideblue said:
22nd is supposedly the date the road map will be revealed. Just have to wait
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Yeah i understood that. 15th for them to start discussing it. 22nd to tell us. 8th when schools will start to go back (mrs a teacher and led to believe that itsll be key stage 1 only first)

wouldnt mind a bit more info tho all the same. But i still dont think we’ll learn much other than schools info
 
GM Scoreboard:

723 - down from 736, 38.5% of North West Total which fell by by 13 to 1876. 0.4% fall on yesterday.

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v Today:- 1579 v 1097 v 992 v 723 - Still on a downward path.



Pop Score is cases across whole pandemic v 100,000 people - rises daily but lower the better.

Weekly Pop is same measure across last 7 days only. Can rise or fall depending on if more cases or less occur today v the same day last week.


Either way Up is bad, down is good.



Manchester 164 – up from 130. Total 47, 569. Weekly 1256. Pop score up 29 to 8604. Weekly Pop down 12 to 229.

Bolton 88 - down from 119. Total cases 22, 739. Weekly 804. Pop score up 31 to 7908. Weekly Pop down 22 to 280.

Wigan 83 up from 74. Total cases 25, 912. Weekly 648. Pop score up 25 to 7884. Weekly Pop down 3 to 197. Big drop in cases versus last week as with a few places today. And Wigan goes below 200.

Oldham 67 down from 70. Total cases 20, 691. Weekly 520. Pop score up 28 to 8726. Weekly Pop up 3 1 to 219.

Salford 65 - same as yesterday. Total cases 20, 588. Weekly 592. Pop score up 25 to 7954. Weekly Pop down 15 to 229.

Stockport 64 - down from from 70. Total cases 18, 262. Weekly 594. Pop score up 23 to 6224. Weekly Pop down 8 to 201.

Rochdale 62 - up from 51. Total cases 18, 867. Weekly 464. Pop score up 25 to 8432. Weekly Pop down 9 to 209.

Tameside 45 down from 54. Total cases 15, 895. Weekly 398. Pop score up 20 to enter the 7000 club at 7018. Weekly Pop down 4 to 176.

Bury 44 - down from 66. Total cases 15, 361. Weekly 400. Very consistent numbers here daily now for three weeks. Pop score up 23 to 8043. Weekly Pop down 4 to 210.

Trafford 41 - up from 37. Total cases 14, 895. Weekly 368. Lowest weekly total in GM. Pop score up 17 to 6275. Lowest rise of the day yet again. Trafford picks up another 6 on Stockport's fast dwindling overall pop score lead to now just 51. Weekly Pop down 13 to 155. Best weekly Pop score and Trafford head and shoulders the best in almost every measure in GM now.



Pop Scores Today v 7 Days ago // Up/down over past week (lowest numbers best - numbers going up bad and going down good)


Trafford 155 v 211 // down 56

Tameside 176 v 257 // down 81

Wigan 197 v 268 // down 71

Stockport 201 v 241 // down 40

Rochdale 209 v 255 // down 46

Bury 210 v 228 // down 18

Oldham 219 v 224 // down 5

Manchester 227 v 298 // down 71

Salford 229 v 276 // down 47

Bolton 280 v 294 // down 14


Everybody down week to week, three boroughs below 200 and several others close to doing so.

Only Bolton was having problems but seems to have stabilised.
 
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Does anyone else just randomly get craving like urges to do normal stuff?

I am missing a lot of stuff at the moment, the simplest things, today it was getting on a train to Manchester and getting a Greggs whilst walking to the ground.

I’m sick to death of Zoom when a phone call will do.

We need a light, something to aim for
 
Nick_1985 said:
Absolutely fucking spot on.

People need to stay the fuck away from the news. Fucking toxic
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As an example, we are all supposed to be hyper panicked about the South African varient, but look has whats happened in South Africa without a vaccine!
 

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Marvin said:
I disagree a little. The data looks good but underneath it there are variants emerging which maybe difficult to wipe out. May. I think it's the uncertainty that's difficult to deal with. It really isn't clear how big a threat the variants are as we don't know whether the vaccines will hold their replication in check.

If we can beat down the original virus then the source pool for new variants will be gone and we can focus all the testing and tracing on keeping down the new variants. Then when its clear what we are facing we vaccinate again. We should get very high vaccination rates now because vaccination will be seen as the only way to protect yourself. You can't hind behind other people now. Once the majority get vaccinated, and providing it doesn't mutate significantly further then we should be OK to relax a lot of restrictions. That's what I am hoping for.
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Good post mate...concur.
WNRH said:
Does anyone else just randomly get craving like urges to do normal stuff?

I am missing a lot of stuff at the moment, the simplest things, today it was getting on a train to Manchester and getting a Greggs whilst walking to the ground.

I’m sick to death of Zoom when a phone call will do.

We need a light, something to aim for
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I do.
Even things I found a bit mundane & sometimes annoying like a visit to the Trafford centre, seems like a lovely idea.
Human craving for a bit of normality and social interaction.
A mooch around a John Lewis eyeing up the ‘make up ladies’ and generating a smile if lucky.
A gig at Gorilla drenched in sweat and spilt, overpriced IPA whisky eyeing up the ‘make up ladies...’ hang on...
 
Blue.Roys.Son said:
As an example, we are all supposed to be hyper panicked about the South African varient, but look has whats happened in South Africa without a vaccine!
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Have dropped dramatically since they moved from alert level 1 to 3 (of 5) at the end of December, considering that it’s their Summer then the fact it was increasing so much in the first place is surely a factor why it’s a concern.
 
RobMCFC said:
To all those who are struggling, just have a bit of faith for a few more weeks. Whilst the gov are crap at communication, they cannot sanction loosening of restrictions whilst the case numbers are so high. Yes, they are heading in the right direction, but they are not low enough yet.

It doesn’t help when the media ask dumb questions that neither the politicians nor scientists are in a position to answer yet. The vaccines are the way out of this, but they need 1. To get through the people at risk and 2. Data from the vaccinations themselves.

Change is coming, just watch those daily case numbers and hospitalisation numbers and then you won’t need an answer from Boris - you’ll be able to work out when restrictions will be lifted. And the good news is that both these figures are coming down nicely.
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That all sounds great but then why is that bloody Grant Sharp saying no holidays this year when we are in February and hopefully all these positive things happen? Has he got a crystal ball, or does he know no matter what happens they are keeping restrictions going? This is what is depressing people, it comes across as they are drunk on the power of it all.
 
SB Blue said:
Have dropped dramatically since they moved from alert level 1 to 3 (of 5) at the end of December, considering that it’s their Summer then the fact it was increasing so much in the first place is surely a factor why it’s a concern.
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Yes of course it should be a concern, but if you also factor in their poverty and lack of medical availability then it also could equally point to nothing more than a normal covid varient.

I'm not saying the authorities shouldn't be watching it carefully, but the reporting is all out of proportion and causing much misery and concern when there is no real evidence for it being an additional problem for the UK or our current vaccines.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
the death toll without the news would be 100x higher.
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No it wouldn't

Without going over all the old issues and I have first hand experience this week of more people refusing the vaccine due to what the have heard on the news.

With that in mind they are causing future deaths that didn't need to happen.

I'm not advocating happy clapping news reporting but just fair, accurate and sensible reporting.
 
cleavers said:
And they will all be responsible for the next lockdown, only idiots can't see that now, surely ?
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No people see that whatever they do, whatever promises the government make about flattening the curve, getting numbers down, vaccinations being the way out, just be patient, they are still locked down a year later with little respite. If numbers fall, hospitals are coping well and the vaccinations appear to work I'm saying people, rightly or wrongly, will think fuck it if restrictions aren't eased. I'm not talking next week.or next month but April/May time.
 
Blue.Roys.Son said:
No it wouldn't

Without going over all the old issues and I have first hand experience this week of more people refusing the vaccine due to what the have heard on the news.

With that in mind they are causing future deaths that didn't need to happen.

I'm not advocating happy clapping news reporting but just fair, accurate and sensible reporting.
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The mutations in the strain 501Y.V2 have been shown to evade antibodies generated by previous infection / vaccines to two regions of the spike protein: N-terminus and RBD. That is not the whole immune response but anything that compromises the immune response will get attention. Rightly too. If the health authorities just allowed these variants to spread then they would be negligent. I was none too impressed with the response to the UK variant but it was possibly unstoppable because it had a transmissibility advantage
 
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