Keir Starmer

[urban genie]

What for? Leaving or re-joining or both. Forty years as an active member counts for nothing?

Okay

 

[mcfc1632]

Still about members not voters for you then. The point is ex Labour voters like me may reconsider now, if that happens Labour may once again win an election and you know help people.

There are quite a few of us of that profile on here - and Labour have zero chance of wining the next (a future) election without us - that really grinds the gears of some

 

[urban genie]

There are quite a few of us of that profile on here - and Labour have zero chance of wining the next (a future) election without us - that really grinds the gears of some

Not me I want everyone to vote labour

 

[mcfc1632]

Brown was very difficult for Blair to manage, Brown never got over Blair going for the leadership and getting it.

He was incredibly petulant and purposefully difficult.

Effectively Brown was running the UK whilst Blair was off with his international distractions - he had control over all the 'Home' departments

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Effectively Brown was running the UK whilst Blair was off with his international distractions - he had control over all the 'Home' departments

He still had a boss though, as shown by the saggy pair of tits he made of the job when the responsibility for it was all his

 

[mcfc1632]

People rightly complain about Blair and Campbell over Iraq and Kelly, amongst other things.

But the undermining, self-serving Scottish narcissist Brown has a hell of a lot to answer for.

Correct - he has had an easy ride - but different topic I guess

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

He still had a boss though, as shown by the saggy pair of tits he made of the job when the responsibility for it was all his

One of the things I've learnt in life, and no doubt you have, is that some people are born leaders and some are great backroom people. They have talent but they need someone in a leadership role in order to get the most of of that talent.

 

[Ban-jani]

There are quite a few of us of that profile on here - and Labour have zero chance of wining the next (a future) election without us - that really grinds the gears of some

 

[Shaelumstash]

There are quite a few of us of that profile on here - and Labour have zero chance of wining the next (a future) election without us - that really grinds the gears of some

Absolutely brilliant.

A serious politician who actually helped to make a more fair and balanced society, calling out the 1970s Student Union cult for what they are.

 

[George Hannah]

Johnson still on message

 

[Ban-jani]

Johnson still on message

He’s absolutely bang on the money.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Johnson still on message

Corbyns opponents that spent the last few years undermining and plotting in the shadows, now decide undermining and plotting in the shadows is not right anymore. lol.

 

[George Hannah]

Corbyns opponents that spent the last few years undermining and plotting in the shadows, now decide undermining and plotting in the shadows is not right anymore. lol.

No lolling matter, Corbyn's cult have taken the Labour Party to the brink of extinction - are you lamenting their failure to finish the job?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

No lolling matter, Corbyn's cult have taken the Labour Party to the brink of extinction - are you lamenting their failure to finish the job?

No, just lamenting that labour is lost between two cults - the momentum lot, and the ex lawyer suits pursuing power by any means.

 

[George Hannah]

No, just lamenting that labour is lost between two cults - the momentum lot, and the ex lawyer suits pursuing power by any means.

Starmer is a cult leader too? "Ex lawyer suit pursuing power by any means" - presumably only those political powers consistent with a parliamentary democracy? Do explain how that constitutes a cult.

 

[mcfc1632]

I’m not really sure what you’re getting at?

Labour won 3 landslides in a row on a moderate, centre ground, pro European position.

They’ve just lost 4 in a row on a hard left, 1970s Student Union socialist ticket.

They’ve now just elected their most centre ground leader since the last one who won 3 in a row. Seems like a step in the right direction for me.

"Seems like a step in the right direction for me. …."

Might seem that way for moderates/centrist types that would like to see Labour actually able to implement policy

The 'comrades' prefer to remain 'pure' - even if that means another 20+ years of political wilderness. They like the status of protest group it seems

 

[Ban-jani]

You cannot make it up

 

[mcfc1632]

I can only assume you’re referencing a previous post of yours and I’ve not seen it because I’ve got no idea what you’re trying to say.

My previous post will help

You and I - and a lot of other traditional Labour supporters - see the need for Labour to adopt a position where it is electable. That was achieved very successfully when Blair moved the movement towards the centre - but 'New Labour' is anathema to the hard-left purists. They saw the leadership of Corbyn as a 'getting their party back' and becoming again the true Labour Party - hence the comments that your issue is with the Labour Party.

I suspect that, like me and many others on here, you are deemed to be 'not worthy - not pure enough'

 

[Postman Pep]

Starmer is a cult leader too? "Ex lawyer suit pursuing power by any means" - presumably only those political powers consistent with a parliamentary democracy? Do explain how that constitutes a cult.

Takes two sets of cults/cunts to cause infighting?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Corbyns opponents that spent the last few years undermining and plotting in the shadows, now decide undermining and plotting in the shadows is not right anymore. lol.

If Postman Johnson and his black and white prejudices, had pulled his fucking finger out in 2017, things would've been very different.