Middle East Conflict

meltonblue said:
Is your argument here that you think everyone in Gaza should be considered an enemy? Or that you don’t know if the cutting of supplies to the citizen population could be considered a war crime?
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No.
Ask yourself why Britain didnt supply Nazi Germany in WW2 even though many Germans were not Nazis?
 
cleavers said:
Accused of what ?

Either way they're not going to do a swap for them.
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Some of them will be serious terrorists. Others children and women.

They don't have to be awaiting trial or convicted.

Administrative detention allows Israel to keep prisoners for indefinitely extendable periods of 6 months.

Obviously they aren't going to release commanders or soldiers. But maybe start with the kids and women and a few people that would be released soon anyway.

Or Israel can bomb Gaza into the stone age and kill countless innocents and the hostages.
 
As there hasn't been an election in Gaza since 2006 I think it tells us all we need to know. The regime will be exactly the same as it was for the Syrians under the tyrant Bashar al-Assad. No one will dare go against Hamas as they will be raped, burnt alive or their throats cut. Now they are being indiscriminately bombed, denied food,water and electricity. There are atrocities on both sides but of course it's the innocent men, women and children that suffer on both sides. I spoke with a few of my Jewish friends today who were unbelievably humble enough in their grief to say that it is only the innocent that suffer and they feel so sad and angry for their Palestinian neighbours suffering under Hamas rule.
 
BlueAnorak said:
No.
Ask yourself why Britain didnt supply Nazi Germany in WW2 even though many Germans were not Nazis?
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What am I supposed to be asking myself there, we didn’t control the supplies to Germany?

Civilian protection as part of the Geneva Convention didn’t come in until after WW2 anyway though.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
A globally proscribed terrorist organisation has launched an attack on Israel no doubt with the backing of other radical states backed by larger and more sinister geo politically aware forces at a time of vulnerability for the west due to Putin and a war in Ukraine.
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I gathered that, it was an expression
 
meltonblue said:
What am I supposed to be asking myself there, we didn’t control the supplies to Germany?

Civilian protection as part of the Geneva Convention didn’t come in until after WW2 anyway though.
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We did actually, and the control got stronger as the war went on. While being subjected to unrestricted submarine warfare we blockaded Germany and prevented supplies ariving from overseas.
 
BlueAnorak said:
In the main, Irish violence didn't get round to mass murder of the other side's population.
It's good to hope but it's just a dream to think it can be forgiven and no nation will be willing to keep the peace will put their own troops at risk from the extremists.
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TBH you need to clarify your point before I can respond.
 
Ohrodneyrodney said:
Indeed. If my neighbor doesn't want to adhere to the law and wants to smash my head in, the chances are I'll try to smash his head in first. I'm hardly going to rely on filing a lawsuit against him in the hope that it stops him.
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Which is what then makes other countries say the Geneva convention isn’t worth the paper it’s written on and on it goes :)
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
TBH you need to clarify your point before I can respond.
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Your example shows reconciliation but it's not a good example.
I highly doubt there would have been be any chance of reconciliation in NI if mass murders occured as regularly happen in the Middle East.
 
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meltonblue said:
You do get that’s not a comparative surely?
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Pretty sure many Germans were suffering from starvation by 1945.
In fact I don't know of any country supplying unoccupied areas of the other side's country during any war, ever.
Apparantly Isreal has to.
Amazingly Isreal are willing to do so if Hamas stop launching missiles into Isreal.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Pretty sure Germanns were dying from starvation in 1945.
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We didn’t control their electricity, water supply or their main borders too though. Again, we also didn’t have obligations in place in regards to their citizen population at the time either.
 
meltonblue said:
We didn’t control their electricity, water supply or their main borders too though. Again, we also didn’t have obligations in place in regards to their citizen population at the time either.
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We were blockading Germany, destroying warehouses, power stations, water supplies and transport links etc so the effect is the same.
No point in arguing this one I guess we won't change each other's minds
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Pretty sure many Germans were suffering from starvation by 1945.
In fact I don't know of any country supplying unoccupied areas of the other side's country during any war, ever.
Apparantly Isreal has to.
Amazingly Isreal are willing to do so if Hamas stop launching missiles into Isreal.
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You have thought those more vociferous about Isreals actions maybe a bit more vociferous about Hammas ,
 
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