Oasis reunion

BlueHammer85 said:
I would say it’s Noel that only agreed to this tour on the basis he makes as much as possible, he can’t be arsed and doesn’t really want to be back with his brother again - just wants to get it over and done with for maximum pay out. Is my feeling anyway.
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He didn’t look too happy on Saturday to be fair
 
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The combination of a race horse and oasis ticket scam is the most pikey thing I’ve ever seen in my life
 
Jam Tomorrow said:
Cos Noel is a Tory and he really doesn’t do empathy. Liam seems more down to earth. Let me know if it’s ok for me to have an opinion. Thanks.
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Absolutely fine for you to have your opinion. As it is for me to have my own. And my opinion is that your opinion on this is a load of old shite. You don't know them but seem to know what they're like. Thanks.
 
PinkFinal said:
They've probably got PR people telling them exactly how to handle this. Say nothing will maybe be the strategy. Wait for some other news to wipe this off the front page.
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It’s not going away so they need to say something really / and yeah it’ll need to be coordinated hence Liam backing off the old MuskNet for a few days.
 
tedmak said:
I think the dymanic pricing is just a smokescreen in a way. They have been guaranteed a significant amount and the ticket revenues have to secure this. If they didnt do dynamic/variable pricing. they would just have to put the flat rate prices up to get the same money.
What annoys me is the lack of clarity on pricing - just tell people beforehand it will be dynamic. (How many million man hours were wasted on Saturday morning? Never mind people that wanted to use Ticketmaster for non-Oasis purposes).
The other matter that is getting smotherered by the dynamic pricing discussion is the fees. They are effectively part of the ticket price so should be disclosed.

Am not a fan of Oasis but happy for people who have got tickets (I know loads). My main concern is where this will lead in other events.
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City will be doing it next.
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Is it ethical - no it's not.
Is it lawful - yes it is.
I'm still on the side of the customer has a choice - had enough people chosen NOT to pay those prices they'd have had to be reduced.
It's the way things are these days - look at God's own Club and the state of ticketing :(
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Think you're potentially missing the point here.

I waited in the queue for 7 hours, looking for £150 tickets. When I eventually got to the front, the exact same ticket had been hiked up to £350.

I chose not to buy it.

At least half a dozen people I know experienced the exact same thing.

Had I known they were £350 from the off, I wouldn't have wasted 7 hours in the queue, because I know £350 is not a price I'd be willing to pay.

Other industries like airlines and trains, even Uber have "dynamic" pricing, and everyone accepts and understands that.

Clearly a train to London that gets you there for 8.30am on a Monday morning is going to be priced higher than a 2pm train on a Tuesday afternoon, because the demand is so much higher.

Everyone understands that, and accepts it.

As a consumer you have a choice - pay a premium for the most in demand time slot, or pay a cheaper price to go off peak.

You know the price you're being asked to pay before you get in the queue.

The difference with these gig tickets was, it was done under false pretence.

The overwhelming majority of people (including all the people I know who experienced it) had no clue the price would be more than doubled by the time they got to the front of the queue to buy.

It was underhand and exploitative.

And the difference with peak and off peak trains is, they're different services, offering different benefits. There's a premium attached to the more attractive service. There's consumer choice.

With the standing tickets, whether £150 or £350, they are the exact same service. There is no consumer choice. Those who chose not to buy are not consumers.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Think you're potentially missing the point here.

I waited in the queue for 7 hours, looking for £150 tickets. When I eventually got to the front, the exact same ticket had been hiked up to £350.

I chose not to buy it.

At least half a dozen people I know experienced the exact same thing.

Had I known they were £350 from the off, I wouldn't have wasted 7 hours in the queue, because I know £350 is not a price I'd be willing to pay.

Other industries like airlines and trains, even Uber have "dynamic" pricing, and everyone accepts and understands that.

Clearly a train to London that gets you there for 8.30am on a Monday morning is going to be priced higher than a 2pm train on a Tuesday afternoon, because the demand is so much higher.

Everyone understands that, and accepts it.

As a consumer you have a choice - pay a premium for the most in demand time slot, or pay a cheaper price to go off peak.

You know the price you're being asked to pay before you get in the queue.

The difference with these gig tickets was, it was done under false pretence.

The overwhelming majority of people (including all the people I know who experienced it) had no clue the price would be more than doubled by the time they got to the front of the queue to buy.

It was underhand and exploitative.

And the difference with peak and off peak trains is, they're different services, offering different benefits. There's a premium attached to the more attractive service. There's consumer choice.

With the standing tickets, whether £150 or £350, they are the exact same service. There is no consumer choice. Those who chose not to buy are not consumers.
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In one word - THIS!!!!!!
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I would say it’s Noel that only agreed to this tour on the basis he makes as much as possible, he can’t be arsed and doesn’t really want to be back with his brother again - just wants to get it over and done with for maximum pay out. Is my feeling anyway.
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To be honest I've had it in for Noel ever since he turned his nose up at the One Love Manchester gig, that was the time for Oasis to reform, but obviously wasn't interested because there was no money in it for him

I always remember which Gallagher turned up that day.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Totally agree.
I understand the capitalist concept of supply and demand, but there is something fundamentally wrong about about offering a product such as entertainment at a price and basically putting it out for auction to your audience instead of at face value.

Oh for the days of queuing up at HMV for a paper ticket with a definite price on it.

Think about where this goes if we accept this. Wait for Spotify or AppleMusic to do the same when you want to listen to your favourite bands.
Instead of your €6.99 a month they start saying, sorry Oasis are very popular this month, that’ll cost you €36.99

There goes the music threads in here for a start. ;-)
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I wouldn't call supply and demand a capitalist concept, it's basic economics.
 
tedmak said:
I think the dymanic pricing is just a smokescreen in a way. They have been guaranteed a significant amount and the ticket revenues have to secure this. If they didnt do dynamic/variable pricing. they would just have to put the flat rate prices up to get the same money.
What annoys me is the lack of clarity on pricing - just tell people beforehand it will be dynamic. (How many million man hours were wasted on Saturday morning? Never mind people that wanted to use Ticketmaster for non-Oasis purposes).
The other matter that is getting smotherered by the dynamic pricing discussion is the fees. They are effectively part of the ticket price so should be disclosed.

Am not a fan of Oasis but happy for people who have got tickets (I know loads). My main concern is where this will lead in other events.
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TBF to Ticketmaster, which I don't like to be, I think it does say against Platinum tickets that price can vary.

Also, dynamic pricing has been happening on TM for some time, I only got tickets for the Taylor Hawkins Tribute gig because of it (although the excess there was supposed to go to charity so I didn't feel so bad).

I expected for this gig and told my daughter and wife to keep trying because of that because tickets do appear and disappear and reappear when it kicks in and you still have a chance of getting tickets when it should be sold out.

I am not a fan of it but it is just an extension of existing pricing models that has become enabled by technical advances.
 
pride in battle said:
Its not like he said it last year is it.
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Despite it being 7 years ago, when you take into account the exchange rate and inflation the ticket price LG was raging about comes out about the same as the dynamically priced tickets they were flogging this weekend.

I've got no problem with people defending their right to exploit the level of demand for their reunion which they clearly have, but that doesn't stop the pair of them being greedy buggers and, in the case of that tweet, LG being a hypocrite too.
 
Coatigan said:
The City season ticket holders getting first dibs (partly jokey as I read it) suggsation isn't that outrageous tbf. Oasis have made such a thing about being City fans, both themselves and the club have used the attachment for PR, both brothers have benefited from getting access to all sorts of perks including the dressing room etc. And using the treble to set the reunion rumours in motion. I don't begrudge or judge it in the slightest, some of it is even 'cool'. And I don't particularly agree with the suggestions City fans should get first pick, but, it wouldn't at all be 'off-brand' with what the image they have built. The 'real fans' less so, but even that based on some of their public proclamations and views put out there is not that wild.

Not arguing it should be the case, but these claims did not appear completely unprompted.
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I still think they should do some warm up gigs at the coop before the big gigs, City season ticket holders/members have priority access. Four gigs at the coop would make them a bit of many but also gives the City fans a nod.

Never going to happen though.
 
Coatigan said:
The City season ticket holders getting first dibs (partly jokey as I read it) suggsation isn't that outrageous tbf. Oasis have made such a thing about being City fans, both themselves and the club have used the attachment for PR, both brothers have benefited from getting access to all sorts of perks including the dressing room etc. And using the treble to set the reunion rumours in motion. I don't begrudge or judge it in the slightest, some of it is even 'cool'. And I don't particularly agree with the suggestions City fans should get first pick, but, it wouldn't at all be 'off-brand' with what the image they have built. The 'real fans' less so, but even that based on some of their public proclamations and views put out there is not that wild.

Not arguing it should be the case, but these claims did not appear completely unprompted.
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I said this a while ago, would’ve been a smart bit of marketing to do a city presale. Fans of other clubs would complain but it’d have tied in well with this definitely maybe city clothing range stuff they’re now announcing.

I’m sure they at least toyed with the idea and it got written off for some reason or other.
 
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