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Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11
I totally agree.
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I totally agree.
Player topic: Frank Lampard (2014/15)
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Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11
They're not all bad. I think this one from a chap in Mumbai is very mature, balanced and reasoned.
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They're not all bad. I think this one from a chap in Mumbai is very mature, balanced and reasoned.
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Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11
Hahahahahaha, love it.
boshman said:
Hahahahahaha, love it.
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What an embittered set of cunts!
Perhaps they should have offered him a contract then, after all its all that we have done.
They think he should have turned it down based on loyalty I suppose. Yeah OK
Wonder how Paddy (shithouse) Barkley will spin it now it's been revealed there have been no dodgy loan deals and Franks contracted and registered with us all along, paid by us and declared in the accounts when appropriate. Exactly how is that despicable sharp practice in respect of FFP you twat? (That includes the American bell end reporting on Sky Sports about Gerrard who thinks there may be something fishy re FFP about the FL deal as well) Journalists really should get their facts right before spouting shit. I won't bank on their being an apology. Great to have super Frank until the end of the season. Looks like comms between CFG members will have to improve after all were on the same side remember.
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What an embittered set of cunts!
Perhaps they should have offered him a contract then, after all its all that we have done.
They think he should have turned it down based on loyalty I suppose. Yeah OK
Wonder how Paddy (shithouse) Barkley will spin it now it's been revealed there have been no dodgy loan deals and Franks contracted and registered with us all along, paid by us and declared in the accounts when appropriate. Exactly how is that despicable sharp practice in respect of FFP you twat? (That includes the American bell end reporting on Sky Sports about Gerrard who thinks there may be something fishy re FFP about the FL deal as well) Journalists really should get their facts right before spouting shit. I won't bank on their being an apology. Great to have super Frank until the end of the season. Looks like comms between CFG members will have to improve after all were on the same side remember.
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Looks like his legend status among Chelsea fans is over lol.
Funniest thing, they all scramble to claim it's because he's breaking his word about joining NYCFC. But we all know if Lampard weren't scoring goals and winning us points, they wouldn't give a fuck.
If they didn't want this to happen, they shouldn't have kicked him out of the club. It's just not believable that Jose offered him a great contract and he turned it down to join us so he could spite Chelsea.
Looks like his legend status among Chelsea fans is over lol.
Funniest thing, they all scramble to claim it's because he's breaking his word about joining NYCFC. But we all know if Lampard weren't scoring goals and winning us points, they wouldn't give a fuck.
If they didn't want this to happen, they shouldn't have kicked him out of the club. It's just not believable that Jose offered him a great contract and he turned it down to join us so he could spite Chelsea.
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I have a feeling there are quite a few of boshman's mates on this thread (dare I say it masquerading as NYFC fans).
aguero93:20 said:boshman said:
Hahahahahaha, love it.
I have a feeling there are quite a few of boshman's mates on this thread (dare I say it masquerading as NYFC fans).
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Ha ha, they're turning into the dippers:
http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/12029-frank-lampard/page-388
Ha ha, they're turning into the dippers:
http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/12029-frank-lampard/page-388
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They mention Terry and Drogba a lot as legends.
Drogba fuked off for a big last pay day.
Terry nearly came to us before they offered more money took money for showing people around the ground.
Some legends :-)
They mention Terry and Drogba a lot as legends.
Drogba fuked off for a big last pay day.
Terry nearly came to us before they offered more money took money for showing people around the ground.
Some legends :-)
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If there really is an issue, and one that could be solved by a flagship signing, why can't CFG just sign up a player for NYCFC, someone like Balotelli who may be available at a bargain price, or other such 'name' who would put bums on seats and guarantee the full glare of publicity on the club? Or am I being a bit too simplistic?
That's somewhere like I see it. Fine player, but he's 36 and is, with all best will going, is at the back end of his career. Now if they'd signed Silva or Aguero, only for them to backtrack on a MLS career, then we would have fully understood a fans backlash, but in the case of Lamps who was, originally, being pushed into a pension fund, this reaction from supporters of a team that has yet to play a game is either blatantly excessive, or is just another issue being used to bash CFG with.maurizio said:
If there really is an issue, and one that could be solved by a flagship signing, why can't CFG just sign up a player for NYCFC, someone like Balotelli who may be available at a bargain price, or other such 'name' who would put bums on seats and guarantee the full glare of publicity on the club? Or am I being a bit too simplistic?
Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11
Not saying you are wrong but from what I have seen from my living room in Manchester (UK) is that Lampard and Villa have been used as poster boys to sell season tickets.
In my view, the lesson is don't jump the gun and upset potential fans.
Like I say though, I aint saying you are wrong, I saw one report where some US pundit said there were already two teams established in the New York metropolitan area, but from what I can see from my living room there aint!
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Not saying you are wrong but from what I have seen from my living room in Manchester (UK) is that Lampard and Villa have been used as poster boys to sell season tickets.
In my view, the lesson is don't jump the gun and upset potential fans.
Like I say though, I aint saying you are wrong, I saw one report where some US pundit said there were already two teams established in the New York metropolitan area, but from what I can see from my living room there aint!
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Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11
He probably meant Cosmos and Red Bull, although RB aren't in New York Metropolitan area afaik and Cosmos aren't in the MLS, typical cockroach.
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He probably meant Cosmos and Red Bull, although RB aren't in New York Metropolitan area afaik and Cosmos aren't in the MLS, typical cockroach.
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Would be the perfect ending.
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Would be the perfect ending.
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I think this would be a better solution for everyone involved. Assuming Balo and his agents could be made to see the huge upside for him in playing over there.
Most of this is - as said often here - just trolling by media and US-based fans of our rivals. Partly too the inherent preciousness of many of the MLS fans.
If we pried Balo back out of dipper-ville and sent him NYC way I'd expect most of their fans to be throwing their toys about us foisting a "problem child" or "reject" onto them. But in the end, I think Balo would tear up that league and end up making gargantuan amounts of money on the marketing/endorsement side of things.
I'm no cynic said:
I think this would be a better solution for everyone involved. Assuming Balo and his agents could be made to see the huge upside for him in playing over there.
Most of this is - as said often here - just trolling by media and US-based fans of our rivals. Partly too the inherent preciousness of many of the MLS fans.
If we pried Balo back out of dipper-ville and sent him NYC way I'd expect most of their fans to be throwing their toys about us foisting a "problem child" or "reject" onto them. But in the end, I think Balo would tear up that league and end up making gargantuan amounts of money on the marketing/endorsement side of things.
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Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11
Having being through the entire thread it is surprising that most seem to be so casual and alright with the aspect that NYCFC fans were LIED too. The attitude that NYCFC is a "daughter" club and should be grateful and should know its place. Comments along the lines that how about Sinclair should be loaned to "shut them up" or bid for Gerrard to replace Lampard.
CFC bid for NYCFC and if not them someone else would have won the bid and owned NYCFC so for them to be thankful to CFC for their existence is a bit over the top. Although NYCFC fans might have blown the lid in their moaning but they have a very fair point which apparently most here seem to turn a blind eye too because it is uncomfortable to accept a club of this magnitude has basically LIED. It is entirely disrespectful and extremely selfish. Apparently winning is all that matters and if a moral compass is askewed en route then who cares? Is that the message you impart to your kids as well?
NYC marketed ( and when I say marketed I am being underwhelming ) on the back of Villa and Lampard. They stated that they signed Lampard. It is not about being "promised" Lampard but oh snap the transfer fell through. This is a club statement saying the player has signed for them. MCFC posted that they "loaned" Lampard. ( That post has henceforth been deleted, but can be found using WebArchive/Reddit ) . Now suddenly everyone learns NYCFC actually never signed Lampard. It would be interesting when you are put through the same spot of being disrespected by being lied to throughout. An understanding between NYCFC and MCFC is meaningless because they are the same entity. You can't decline an offer to yourself. This entire event sets a very bad precedent and shows a complete disregard for NYCFC and fans. There are a bunch of clubs over variety of sports from people to pledge their loyalty to and actions like these just make it harder.
Sure, Lampard would prefer to play in Prem League and have a shot at titles but that doesn't mean he feigns ignorance. He is holding a bloody NYC banner and has his mug plastered all over USA.
So here are the questions the fans and I would like to know and if you can shed light on it,
According to posters and latest reports he never did sign for NYCFC and hence If he did not sign for NYCFC :
1. Why is he being marketed as one and he himself seems to do so. In fact here is him being still listed on the roster for NYCFC ( <a class="postlink" href="http://www.nycfc.com/players/frank-lampard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nycfc.com/players/frank-lampard</a> ) ?
2. Why then did he ludicrously claim that he is headed to NYC ?
If he did sign for NYCFC :
1. Why isn't he with the club for the start of the season ? NYCFC website claims that his loan has been extended and that the date of return is being worked out. ARE YOU SERIOUS ? Apparently NYC cannot expect its own signed players to show up and its upto the club that has loaned the player to decide when they wish to return him? Not to mention Pelligrini dropping hints as to how Lampard could stay beyond this year. Try telling someone again as to how CFC aims for all clubs to be ran independently.
No one looks good in this entire dealing. Not NYCFC,not MCFC and not Lampard. Such a shame.
Having being through the entire thread it is surprising that most seem to be so casual and alright with the aspect that NYCFC fans were LIED too. The attitude that NYCFC is a "daughter" club and should be grateful and should know its place. Comments along the lines that how about Sinclair should be loaned to "shut them up" or bid for Gerrard to replace Lampard.
CFC bid for NYCFC and if not them someone else would have won the bid and owned NYCFC so for them to be thankful to CFC for their existence is a bit over the top. Although NYCFC fans might have blown the lid in their moaning but they have a very fair point which apparently most here seem to turn a blind eye too because it is uncomfortable to accept a club of this magnitude has basically LIED. It is entirely disrespectful and extremely selfish. Apparently winning is all that matters and if a moral compass is askewed en route then who cares? Is that the message you impart to your kids as well?
NYC marketed ( and when I say marketed I am being underwhelming ) on the back of Villa and Lampard. They stated that they signed Lampard. It is not about being "promised" Lampard but oh snap the transfer fell through. This is a club statement saying the player has signed for them. MCFC posted that they "loaned" Lampard. ( That post has henceforth been deleted, but can be found using WebArchive/Reddit ) . Now suddenly everyone learns NYCFC actually never signed Lampard. It would be interesting when you are put through the same spot of being disrespected by being lied to throughout. An understanding between NYCFC and MCFC is meaningless because they are the same entity. You can't decline an offer to yourself. This entire event sets a very bad precedent and shows a complete disregard for NYCFC and fans. There are a bunch of clubs over variety of sports from people to pledge their loyalty to and actions like these just make it harder.
Sure, Lampard would prefer to play in Prem League and have a shot at titles but that doesn't mean he feigns ignorance. He is holding a bloody NYC banner and has his mug plastered all over USA.
So here are the questions the fans and I would like to know and if you can shed light on it,
According to posters and latest reports he never did sign for NYCFC and hence If he did not sign for NYCFC :
1. Why is he being marketed as one and he himself seems to do so. In fact here is him being still listed on the roster for NYCFC ( <a class="postlink" href="http://www.nycfc.com/players/frank-lampard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nycfc.com/players/frank-lampard</a> ) ?
2. Why then did he ludicrously claim that he is headed to NYC ?
If he did sign for NYCFC :
1. Why isn't he with the club for the start of the season ? NYCFC website claims that his loan has been extended and that the date of return is being worked out. ARE YOU SERIOUS ? Apparently NYC cannot expect its own signed players to show up and its upto the club that has loaned the player to decide when they wish to return him? Not to mention Pelligrini dropping hints as to how Lampard could stay beyond this year. Try telling someone again as to how CFC aims for all clubs to be ran independently.
No one looks good in this entire dealing. Not NYCFC,not MCFC and not Lampard. Such a shame.
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Re: Frank Lampard (staying until end of season confirmed P11
I think you're being a bit precious. I can kind of understand you having a slight grievance if you've bought a season ticket solely on the back of Lampard signing for the club, but to be perfectly honest, you shouldn't really be supporting a club based on one player signing, that's not how football works.
It might be a bit of a set back for NYCFC, but seriously, you've got the best owners in world football. I'm sure anyone else could have won the franchise bid, but trust me, there is no organisation in the world that would be better for your long term success than ADUG / CFG.
It's one player that you might have to wait 6 months longer for, it's really not something to be outraged over. You will get other Designated Players, I'm sure the club will go on to be very successful for years to come, and in 10 years this Lampard saga will be long forgotten about.
In a league where Bradley Wright Phillips was the top scorer last year, with David Villa in the side, you will have more than a half chance of being successful.
The fans who released that statement need to learn to have a bit of respect for the owners, for MCFC and for Frank Lampard himself. The MLS at the moment is a very substandard league, Bradley Wright Phillips is a third tier player in England.
Lampard is currently playing in the most high profile and competitive league in the world, for the champions, who are looking to retain the title in direct competition with a team that discarded him and said he was finished. He's making a huge contribution to the team. Put yourself in his position, of course he wants to stay. Put yourself in City's position, of course we want him to stay, given his impact.
I appreciate there are 10,000 New Yorkers who aren't happy about it, but be realistic. It's a club that doesn't really exist yet, it's not played a single game. To think that you are as much of a priority as the champions of England, a club who the owners have invested a billion pounds in, is just arrogance bordering on delusion.
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I think you're being a bit precious. I can kind of understand you having a slight grievance if you've bought a season ticket solely on the back of Lampard signing for the club, but to be perfectly honest, you shouldn't really be supporting a club based on one player signing, that's not how football works.
It might be a bit of a set back for NYCFC, but seriously, you've got the best owners in world football. I'm sure anyone else could have won the franchise bid, but trust me, there is no organisation in the world that would be better for your long term success than ADUG / CFG.
It's one player that you might have to wait 6 months longer for, it's really not something to be outraged over. You will get other Designated Players, I'm sure the club will go on to be very successful for years to come, and in 10 years this Lampard saga will be long forgotten about.
In a league where Bradley Wright Phillips was the top scorer last year, with David Villa in the side, you will have more than a half chance of being successful.
The fans who released that statement need to learn to have a bit of respect for the owners, for MCFC and for Frank Lampard himself. The MLS at the moment is a very substandard league, Bradley Wright Phillips is a third tier player in England.
Lampard is currently playing in the most high profile and competitive league in the world, for the champions, who are looking to retain the title in direct competition with a team that discarded him and said he was finished. He's making a huge contribution to the team. Put yourself in his position, of course he wants to stay. Put yourself in City's position, of course we want him to stay, given his impact.
I appreciate there are 10,000 New Yorkers who aren't happy about it, but be realistic. It's a club that doesn't really exist yet, it's not played a single game. To think that you are as much of a priority as the champions of England, a club who the owners have invested a billion pounds in, is just arrogance bordering on delusion.
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this might be fun.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/11322912/Frank-Lampard-may-face-New-York-public-in-Manchester-Citys-post-season-friendly-with-sister-club.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -club.html</a>
this might be fun.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/11322912/Frank-Lampard-may-face-New-York-public-in-Manchester-Citys-post-season-friendly-with-sister-club.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -club.html</a>