Scottish independence

[Bodicoteblue]

Idle threats and propaganda from a hostile media and a worried political establishment. Businesses are only interested in doing business. Do you think these businesses are in Scotland at the moment for the benefit of Scotland? No, there here because they can make money and will continue to do so.

Fuck me some of you are in for a nasty fucking surprise if you get independence.

Too right he is how many jobs depend on the faslane submarine base, I can't see England basing it's Nuclear deterrent there, Companies basing themselves in Scotland because of grants available will move to a market of 60 million as opposed to 5 million. i have no problem with Scotland leaving the Union if that's what the people want. just need to brace ourselves for another influx of immigrants looking for work.

The SNP have already informed us that , in the eventuality that they get a vote in favour of independence, that they will be removing the submarines from Faslane , so you can imagine the loss of jobs in that area , and all the local revenue dependent on it.
Mr. Flash makes the point that businesses want to make money and want to continue so to do - well he's right , up to a point - and that point is where those businesses want to know what the currency of the country they are in is using , what is the tax system they are using , are they going to be in the EU ? If not what relationship are they going to have with Europe ? What trade tariffs and barriers are going to be put in their way?i Are the freedom of trade and investment laws going to be applied in newly independent Scotland?
It is going to be a lot easier just to move lock , stock and barrel to an established EU member where these questions have an answer. Somewhere maybe just south of Scotland perhaps.

 

[plongo]

out the rest of the Union (outside Jockland) have a vote on whether or not they want them to stay or go?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I wonder what the bookies odds are for the President of an independent Scotland, My thoughts are:

10:1. Mel Braveheart Gibson. May be an Aussie but is also a Scottish Freedom!!!! Hero. Also, Mel's racist outbursts in recent years would give him honorary Old Form status.

10:1. Rod - Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - Stewart. Rod loved wearing his tartan and playing on his Celtic support. Made some great song in his younger days and his Rythm
Of My Heart featured in the opening of the Commonwealth Games.

8:1. 007 Sean Connery may believe getting the role would be a piece of pish. Sean's acted a lot of good roles in his time but would need to negotiate tax exemptions in advance or he would stay in his current tax free haven.

5:1. Job share for the Proclaimers. Much loved north of the border and most Scots could be walking 500 miles if the economy goes tits up.

5:1. Lulu as I will Shout for joy and do the
locomotion if the Scots vote for
Independence.

Evens: Alex Salmond. He looks to be lining the top gig for himself - as politicians tend to do - whilst claiming Scots could keep the Quuen as their figurehead!

 

[JackFlash74]

Most of the people who work at Faslane are people who don't live there so the effect on the local economy is minimal. Bars and shops were complaining of the lack of trade there recently on the news. It's also hardly a holiday spot now considering what's housed there.

 

[TGR]

Listening to radio 4 this morning on the way to work the general consensus appears to be:

Alex Salmond 0 - 1 Alistair Darling

Even the trendy, leftie, 'right on' Guardian newspaper has Darling down for a clear win!

Could Scotland go it alone as an independent country and run its own economy?
Yep - of course it could.

Would it be better off than it is now economically?
No it wouldn't and it would not survive the next recession (the 7 year cycle is not going to change anytime soon)
and then what does it do?

Be careful what you vote for and wish for Scottish people. Be very careful indeed. However, I wish you luck.

 

[without a dream]

Listening to radio 4 this morning on the way to work the general consensus appears to be:

Alex Salmond 0 - 1 Alistair Darling

Even the trendy, leftie, 'right on' Guardian newspaper has Darling down for a clear win!

Could Scotland go it alone as an independent country and run its own economy?
Yep - of course it could.

Would it be better off than it is now economically?
No it wouldn't and it would not survive the next recession (the 7 year cycle is not going to change anytime soon)
and then what does it do?

Be careful what you vote for and wish for Scottish people. Be very careful indeed. However, I wish you luck.

Salmond has fucked himself on the currency issue. He kept banging on about English bullying for months rather than finding a solution and that's left him looking stupid.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Listening to radio 4 this morning on the way to work the general consensus appears to be:

Alex Salmond 0 - 1 Alistair Darling

Even the trendy, leftie, 'right on' Guardian newspaper has Darling down for a clear win!

Could Scotland go it alone as an independent country and run its own economy?
Yep - of course it could.

Would it be better off than it is now economically?
No it wouldn't and it would not survive the next recession (the 7 year cycle is not going to change anytime soon)
and then what does it do?

Be careful what you vote for and wish for Scottish people. Be very careful indeed. However, I wish you luck.

Salmond has fucked himself on the currency issue. He kept banging on about English bullying for months rather than finding a solution and that's left him looking stupid.

Well, I thought the Mars Bar fryer did very well indeed and all our erstwhile Jock mates should heed every word.
Vote yes, it's the way to go.

 

[Clevers]

Salmond reveals economic plans

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Hope the jocks see sense and vote better together

Never really considered my much of a Unionist in any way but our ties are so close I believe the UK is worth preserving

I will caveat that with I hope is hugely increased regional governance. By that I mean more autonomy for Manchester to do its thing. What the fuck does some Eton educated buffoon who lives in rural Oxfordshire know about living in a northern city? And no I don't want a fucking Mayor figure like Boris I want proper regional and local representation with powers that the near 3 million people of Gt Manchester deserve.

All regions of the UK are different and the current one fits all approach from Westminster only ever appears to work for the City of London.

As a proud Manc I have more in common with scousers, geordies, Glaswegians than I do with London and its time that the UK recognised that whilst being British is fine, local answers to local issues is what we need.

HS2 is a case in point. It makes London closer but it does not help the North connect. I Can get to Leeds in a cattle wagon in an hour, whilst London 4 times further away can be reached every 15 mins in nice plush trains in about 2 hours.

So from you Jock lads please say no and join in trying to get local democracy for all

Good sentiments but tbh we're too far apart now....Scots get free university places, free eye checks, free prescriptions......the Scots Govt are clearly more concerned about the education ,health and welfare of its population rather than trying to make a profit.

good luck to them i say

 

[totallywired]

Listening to radio 4 this morning on the way to work the general consensus appears to be:

Alex Salmond 0 - 1 Alistair Darling

Even the trendy, leftie, 'right on' Guardian newspaper has Darling down for a clear win!

Could Scotland go it alone as an independent country and run its own economy?
Yep - of course it could.

Would it be better off than it is now economically?
No it wouldn't and it would not survive the next recession (the 7 year cycle is not going to change anytime soon)
and then what does it do?

Be careful what you vote for and wish for Scottish people. Be very careful indeed. However, I wish you luck.

`The Guardian` trendy!! What sort of clothes do you wear?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Hope the jocks see sense and vote better together

Never really considered my much of a Unionist in any way but our ties are so close I believe the UK is worth preserving

I will caveat that with I hope is hugely increased regional governance. By that I mean more autonomy for Manchester to do its thing. What the fuck does some Eton educated buffoon who lives in rural Oxfordshire know about living in a northern city? And no I don't want a fucking Mayor figure like Boris I want proper regional and local representation with powers that the near 3 million people of Gt Manchester deserve.

All regions of the UK are different and the current one fits all approach from Westminster only ever appears to work for the City of London.

As a proud Manc I have more in common with scousers, geordies, Glaswegians than I do with London and its time that the UK recognised that whilst being British is fine, local answers to local issues is what we need.

HS2 is a case in point. It makes London closer but it does not help the North connect. I Can get to Leeds in a cattle wagon in an hour, whilst London 4 times further away can be reached every 15 mins in nice plush trains in about 2 hours.

So from you Jock lads please say no and join in trying to get local democracy for all

Good sentiments but tbh we're too far apart now....Scots get free university places, free eye checks, free prescriptions......the Scots Govt are clearly more concerned about the education ,health and welfare of its population rather than trying to make a profit.

good luck to them i say

So do I. Everyone knows you don't need any spare cash to pay for education, health and welfare.

 

[Plaything of the gods]

If it means no more Scottish sports coverage, then I'm all for it.

If it means a perpetual Tory government for the rest of us, then no way, the Scots should be frogmarched to the booths to vote NO.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Hope the jocks see sense and vote better together

Never really considered my much of a Unionist in any way but our ties are so close I believe the UK is worth preserving

I will caveat that with I hope is hugely increased regional governance. By that I mean more autonomy for Manchester to do its thing. What the fuck does some Eton educated buffoon who lives in rural Oxfordshire know about living in a northern city? And no I don't want a fucking Mayor figure like Boris I want proper regional and local representation with powers that the near 3 million people of Gt Manchester deserve.

All regions of the UK are different and the current one fits all approach from Westminster only ever appears to work for the City of London.

As a proud Manc I have more in common with scousers, geordies, Glaswegians than I do with London and its time that the UK recognised that whilst being British is fine, local answers to local issues is what we need.

HS2 is a case in point. It makes London closer but it does not help the North connect. I Can get to Leeds in a cattle wagon in an hour, whilst London 4 times further away can be reached every 15 mins in nice plush trains in about 2 hours.

So from you Jock lads please say no and join in trying to get local democracy for all

Good sentiments but tbh we're too far apart now....Scots get free university places, free eye checks, free prescriptions......the Scots Govt are clearly more concerned about the education ,health and welfare of its population rather than trying to make a profit.

good luck to them i say

So do I. Everyone knows you don't need any spare cash to pay for education, health and welfare.

The Welsh have free prescriptions and free university too. Living here now and seeing the difference between the Welsh NHS and the NHS in England and the difference between the primary/secondary school system here and in England, it is outrageous. Wales is becoming like a third world country. Their priorities are fucked and now so is their country.

 

[metalblue]

The UK govt have always stated that an independent Scotland could not share the pound. The reality is that there would be a negotiated sharing of the currency because the rest of the UK has to trade with Scotland and wouldnt put that in jeopardy, Alex Salmond is absolutely relying on it. What the good folk living in England need to realise is that they would in effect be underwriting the Scottish economy if we share the pound, as stated by George Osborne, the rest of the UK would carry the risk of the Scottish economy imploding, a real risk with the fukin idiots running the show up here. Hope for a no vote.

There is a precedent here, when the Irish Free State (Republic of Ireland) was created they pegged their currency at a 1/1 for the pound and continued to accept the pound as legal tendor...although their currency wouldn't be accepted outside of RoI.

I don't want the scots voting to stay in because they are afraid of the alternative, it will always be made to work, I want them to vote to stay in because they see the UK as being much better with them inside....which it is. I have never had any difficulty in seeing a scotman as Scottish first and foremost, they don't need independence from the union for that.

Alex Salmond is a fucking twat thou

 

[Paladin]

If the yes vote is successful will us English folk still have to put up with jocks living down here!!

Yes.
But hopefully no Scottish MP's in Westminster.

You will until 24 March 2016. Hopefully Independence Day número uno for us Scotch.

You're no Scot. No Scottish person would refer to their countrymen collectively as 'Scotch'.

 

[west didsblue]

Most of the people who work at Faslane are people who don't live there so the effect on the local economy is minimal. Bars and shops were complaining of the lack of trade there recently on the news. It's also hardly a holiday spot now considering what's housed there.

Even if that's true, they must live elsewhere in Scotland and Faslane's closure will still have a significant effect on the Scottish economy as a whole.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Yes.
But hopefully no Scottish MP's in Westminster.

You will until 24 March 2016. Hopefully Independence Day número uno for us Scotch.

You're no Scot. No Scottish person would refer to their countrymen collectively as 'Scotch'.

You leave him alone, he sounds well Scotch to me.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Most of the people who work at Faslane are people who don't live there so the effect on the local economy is minimal. Bars and shops were complaining of the lack of trade there recently on the news. It's also hardly a holiday spot now considering what's housed there.

Even if that's true, they must live elsewhere in Scotland and Faslane's closure will still have a significant effect on the Scottish economy as a whole.

Go or stay it's all the same to me North Sea oils coming to the end of its run now if our friends north of the border want break up the union fair enough now where can we build our two aircraft carriers don't want the Royal Navy ships being built in a foreign country.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Most of the people who work at Faslane are people who don't live there so the effect on the local economy is minimal. Bars and shops were complaining of the lack of trade there recently on the news. It's also hardly a holiday spot now considering what's housed there.

Even if that's true, they must live elsewhere in Scotland and Faslane's closure will still have a significant effect on the Scottish economy as a whole.

Go or stay it's all the same to me North Sea oils coming to the end of its run now if our friends north of the border want break up the union fair enough now where can we build our two aircraft carriers don't want the Royal Navy ships being built in a foreign country.

Now, now, less of the scaremongering, I'm sure the Scotch will put in a decent bid.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Salmond's a thundercunt. He said Scotland's a nation of drunks, that may be true but it shouldn't be said in public.

Cringe.