The Labour Government

[Dereck Jeffries 3 wd]

Bookmarked, Labour will bring numbers down slowly but surely.

Labour will bring down the numbers this winter ( if it a bad one meaning less boats) they might process some of the huge number waiting ) but most of them ( who lose there claim) will disappear within The UK. This Labour will claim it’s not costing as much and the numbers are down. Double Winner!!!

 

[Gray]

Bookmarked, Labour will bring numbers down slowly but surely.

A cock-eyed optimist.

 

[metalblue]

They’ve a problem here as what they say on a national level is the opposite to what local councillors will say to their constituents, such is the voice of the nimby!

A fair point.

 

[blueinsa]

Bookmarked, Labour will bring numbers down slowly but surely.

Nothing will or can be done about the numbers coming in on traffickers boats as well you know.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Labour will bring down the numbers this winter ( if it a bad one meaning less boats) they might process some of the huge number waiting ) but most of them ( who lose there claim) will disappear within The UK. This Labour will claim it’s not costing as much and the numbers are down. Double Winner!!!

Please explain how illegal immigrants who have disappeared and cant claim a penny because they dont have a National Insurance number will cost the UK taxpayer anything?

Ill wait ...

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

You can claim that it would lessen them but stop them? That's just made up.

Its not .... 30,000 crossed on small boats last year ... a lot of them would be granted asylum (80%) so my assumption would be that only 20% would attempt the crossing illegally ... we could always turn those back ..

 

[blueinsa]

Please explain how illegal immigrants who have disappeared and cant claim a penny because they dont have a National Insurance number will cost the UK taxpayer anything?

Ill wait ...

So they live here and no doubt work here in some form or other and possibly get sick here and use services here but they don’t cost the taxpayer anything?

Stop being silly, of course they cost the taxpayer in the same way we all do.

Thankfully most of us pay in to the same system and wish we didn’t have to subsidise illegal immigrants.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

So they live here and no doubt work here in some form or other and possibly get sick here and use services here but they don’t cost the taxpayer anything?

Stop being silly, of course they cost the taxpayer in the same way we all do.

Thankfully most of us pay in to the same system and wish we didn’t have to subsidise illegal immigrants.

Have you tried registering with a doctor without an National Insurance Number ... or being on an electoral register ?

You cant even claim Universal Credit without a permanent address (which is why the homeless remain homeless)

How little you know

 

[blueinsa]

Have you tried registering with a doctor without an National Insurance Number ... or being on an electoral register ?

You cant even claim Universal Credit without a permanent address (which is why the homeless remain homeless)

How little you know

They work in the black economy you fucking idiot.

“How little you know”

Fuck off lol

 

[bluethrunthru]

This is why Starmer cancelled it on Day 1. Think what that money could have been spent on. Next time you hear a Tory banging on about deterrent and Rwanda just remember these numbers and that it only resulted in 4 VOLUNTEERS going to Rwanda which sold off the housing they had built to local speculators even before the election because even from 6500 miles away they could see Sunak was going to lose and nobody in their right minds would continue this farce

Lizzie Dearden (@lizziedearden.bsky.social)

In July, I FOI'd the Home Office for the full breakdown of spending on the Rwanda scheme I was refused because the government planned to publish the data in future, and today is the day. These numbers are in millions...

bsky.app

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Have you tried registering with a doctor without an National Insurance Number ... or being on an electoral register ?

You cant even claim Universal Credit without a permanent address (which is why the homeless remain homeless)

How little you know

That's not true.

Universal Credit if you're homeless

www.gov.uk

 

[blueinsa]

This is why Starmer cancelled it on Day 1. Think what that money could have been spent on. Next time you hear a Tory banging on about deterrent and Rwanda just remember these numbers and that it only resulted in 4 VOLUNTEERS going to Rwanda which sold off the housing they had built to local speculators even before the election because even from 6500 miles away they could see Sunak was going to lose and nobody in their right minds would continue this farce

Lizzie Dearden (@lizziedearden.bsky.social)

In July, I FOI'd the Home Office for the full breakdown of spending on the Rwanda scheme I was refused because the government planned to publish the data in future, and today is the day. These numbers are in millions...

bsky.app

Welcome back Hans.

I look forward to more stories that back your narrative ;-)

 

[bluethrunthru]

By the way of comparison that £715m figure. Google average price to build a brand new hospital in the UK. Its £500m. The pissed almost 1.5 new hospitals up the wall on Rwanda whilst still claiming they were building 40 new hospitals.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

They work in the black economy you fucking idiot.

“How little you know”

Fuck off lol

but they dont cost you anything .... unless you buy in the black economy

 

[hilts]

Its not .... 30,000 crossed on small boats last year ... a lot of them would be granted asylum (80%) so my assumption would be that only 20% would attempt the crossing illegally ... we could always turn those back ..

Sure sure, polish your crystal ball:-)

 

[metalblue]

By the way of comparison that £715m figure. Google average price to build a brand new hospital in the UK. Its £500m. The pissed almost 1.5 new hospitals up the wall on Rwanda whilst still claiming they were building 40 new hospitals.

£500m must come from the Boris 40 hospitals which was estimate between £20-30bn. As we know those weren’t all hospitals. It costs around £3bn to build a 250 bed hospital these days.

 

[Brewster's millions]

By the way of comparison that £715m figure. Google average price to build a brand new hospital in the UK. It’s £500m. The pissed almost 1.5 new hospitals up the wall on Rwanda whilst still claiming they were building 40 new hospitals.

Some interesting calculations there.

Might be worth considering that thanks to the PFI contracts so beloved by the last Labour government, £13bn of capital investment in hospitals will eventually end up costing the NHS £80bn in repayments.

Thank God the grown ups are back in charge!

 

[bluethrunthru]

Some interesting calculations there.

Might be worth considering that thanks to the PFI contracts so beloved by the last Labour government, £13bn of capital investment in hospitals will eventually end up costing the NHS £80bn in repayments.

Thank God the grown ups are back in charge!

You happy with £715m? For 4 volunteers?

 

[Brewster's millions]

You happy with £715m? For 4 volunteers?

No, it’s a terrible waste of money.

But your hospital analogy is seriously blinkered given the vast sums of money Labour wasted on PFI when they were last in power, and the NHS budget is going to be paying for this for decades to come.

 

[bluethrunthru]

No, it’s a terrible waste of money.

But your hospital analogy is seriously blinkered given the vast sums of money Labour wasted on PFI when they were last in power, and the NHS budget is going to be paying for this for decades to come.

Is that a late bid for the whataboutery trophy 2024?