ULEZ Letter

bluethrunthru said:
I am not an advocate of EV's - the current ranges and infrastructures are inadequate - I am just pointing out that there are scare stories being bandied around about a charge yet to be levied. Maybe wait and see what the impact is.

VW vans are overpriced anyway coz the surfing set and day van converters love them. Most if not all new commercial vehicles would be bought they will be leased. Buying an ageing van with older batteries and running gear etc would be too much of a gamble for most businesses I'd guess
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You can’t get a new T6.1 now they’ve stopped taking orders but they can’t even lease the new Electric ones as they do around 30-40 mile per charge in the real world, Im in the market for a second hand VW and prices are slowly dropping but I won’t buy a euro 5 pre 2016 just in case the ULEZ in Manchester is forced in as it’s money down the drain then, eventually no one will buy any pre 2016 diesel in this country they will become worthless, they’ll then get shipped to a third world country who don’t care about emissions!
 
So the only people if will affect are the poor as they are the ones that drive older cars , all the rich drive new cars that are compliant. So if you earn minimum wage at say the NHS but live outside London as you cant afford to live in London it will cost you £12.50 per day to get to work.
 
jazzy said:
So the only people if will affect are the poor as they are the ones that drive older cars , all the rich drive new cars that are compliant. So if you earn minimum wage at say the NHS but live outside London as you cant afford to live in London it will cost you £12.50 per day to get to work.
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Do they have free parking?

Why not just use public transport?

Which NHS roles are paid UK minimum wage in London boroughs?
 
Blue Maverick said:
If Khan is voted out I wonder if they will scrap it?
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If you think Khan is going to be voted out, get yourself down the bookies.

He's 5-1 on as favourite.

Given that the fear of the ULEZ is always likely to be worse than the actual event, it's better for him to get it started on time, and see a lot of the concern die away.
 
MouldensChippy said:
If this was not about the cash, they could clear the polluters over the whole country by adjusting emissions levels in the MOT test !

Cheaper than camera systems, and tracking networks that's for sure.
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Because most areas of the country have crap public transport. London has (by comparison) world-class public transport and this extends to surrounding areas.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Do they have free parking?

Why not just use public transport?

Which NHS roles are paid UK minimum wage in London boroughs?
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Have you tried public transport as a shift worker , many roles are minimum wage in London . Maybe they need to drop off children at school/ day care . It's a Tax on the poor no ifs or buts if it was a Tory mayor you would be up in arms
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Do they have free parking?

Why not just use public transport?

Which NHS roles are paid UK minimum wage in London boroughs?
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Shift work, getting in from outside London, you know the low paid cleaners etc who work in the NHS and many other industries , £12 an hour, so your first hour is to pay to get into work now, if your going off and not back in your last night shift will cost you £25 return, so first two hours of your shift have to pay for you to get in and out.
 
MouldensChippy said:
So, I ask, why was Andy Burnham pushing for a 493 square mile area for Greater Manchester ?
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The UK is around 94000 square miles - Given we're the second largest conurbation in the UK, 493 seems pretty reasonable.

Your plan would extend it to all 94000 square miles at a stroke.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Is he not trying to improve public transport at the same time?
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This was his idea, even the government slapped him down. The public transport is abysmal, and getting worse, not improving.

It could take up to 3 hours on public transport to cover what would take 20 mins in a private vehicle. Add that up either way to your working day, and say goodbye to your life.

It's also funny how he stated that he could not use public transport because he couldn't get to work in time. Somewhat ironic, don't you think ?
 
jazzy said:
Have you tried public transport as a shift worker , many roles are minimum wage in London . Maybe they need to drop off children at school/ day care . It's a Tax on the poor no ifs or buts if it was a Tory mayor you would be up in arms
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Example of a job on UK minimum wage in London NHS Trust please.
 
MouldensChippy said:
So, I ask, why was Andy Burnham pushing for a 493 square mile area for Greater Manchester ?
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The trouble it’s the Manchester plan was that each council had certain areas that didn’t meet pollution levels, so rather than target those they just did the whole area because all you would do is push everyone into other roads etc. There was one route through GM from north west to south east that you could actually drive without paying, can you imagine the gridlock on that route once it was noticed! I’m no big fan of Burnham but at least he wanted to bring in a bin chargeable system or so he’s led us to believe it was the government pushing for it, as we all kniw we aren’t London and there isn’t a tube system and the metro link just doesn’t connect the right way to get to places.
id say if he brought in a £5 travel card per day for use on bus and trams for 24 hours that could well get people on them more as it is traffic is that bad these days it’s quicker to walk!
 
MouldensChippy said:
This was his idea, even the government slapped him down. The public transport is abysmal, and getting worse, not improving.

It could take up to 3 hours on public transport to cover what would take 20 mins in a private vehicle. Add that up either way to your working day, and say goodbye to your life.

It's also funny how he stated that he could not use public transport because he couldn't get to work in time. Somewhat ironic, don't you think ?
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Did he make public transport shit then?
 
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