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i think it is a bit more useful to quote the numbers by date of case rather than date of reported (avoids 'catch up' spikes etc)

Greater Manchester, 10 areas, up to 10th October (remove 3 days of data):



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places appear to be going in a good direction
So all bar Trafford showing cases dropping over the last few days. Personally, I think this peaked with all the students going back to uni and many of them testing positive for it. If you think about it, pretty much everything opened back up in early July and while there was an obvious increase in case numbers off the back of that, we didn’t start to see the huge increases until September onwards.
 
Is this not the reason why Burnham, et al, are arguing why we shouldn’t be put in tier 3 - that the numbers have peaked and may well be on their way back down?
They seem to be concerned with the financial package. I think if that was right theyd agree with Tier 3. They don’t seem to be mentioning the numbers going down.
 
So all bar Trafford showing cases dropping over the last few days. Personally, I think this peaked with all the students going back to uni and many of them testing positive for it. If you think about it, pretty much everything opened back up in early July and while there was an obvious increase in case numbers off the back of that, we didn’t start to see the huge increases until September onwards.
I tend to agree mate but I guess Hancock could come back and say fewer cases but more vulnerable / elderly are getting the virus so the situation is worsening. I’m not sure that’s the case though.
 
England hospital deaths bad again sadly.

81 versus 44 laat week. BUT the NW does not have the most deaths at 23 today. Yorkshire has 30.
 
Shemnel - I do understand the difference this makes to the data and do often look at it. And did post a list of the comparisons on here a few weeks back to show how they impacted the 'record' for dfferet GM tiwns. They were all over estimated by way of the daily numbers posted v the actual numbers assigned to the date of testing in your graph.

So yes the true numbers daily are actually often lower than the totals I post because cases get eliminated as well as redistributed.

But as you say it takes several days before the numbers to mean anything. Ad cases get added even 4 or 5 days on. This is why the Pop score I show based on the daily published numbers is slightly different from the ones used to create the table of watch areas based on these numbers and why that list is always running days behind. As it has to be to use the actual day of test data.

Though the two are fairly closely aligned in terms of placement on the list and rarely more than a few digits out in the Pop number.

I give the daily reported cases here each evening as these are the only ones you can use to compare with the numbers announced daily for regions and the UK as a whole as that number is created from the raw daily numbers published. So its the only way to have a figure of the day and also that shows how GM compares with the wider NW and with the reported daily cases for England and the UK .

This is the data that, of course, all the media use. Indeed the same problem occurs with date of death - and as you see in my posts I mention the true numbers dying on a day once these are reasonably well established a week later v the numbers that were posted on that day as having occurred then and thus the figure that appears in all the media - as they can be quite different like the cases too.

Please keep posting these graphs though.

And I am happy to do a weekly list of the ACTUAL numbers ascribed to that data for each GM town v the numbers that were posted on the day itself if anyone wants me too.

I just do not want to overload data. It is already a lot to take in.

yep both are useful in their way. i prefer case by date but it's big picture stuff that counts. i'll continue to look at case by date. you already know this but if you report 100 cases yesterday and then 500 today, in reality those 500 could be over 10 days and lift the shape of the curve up equally and not represent a change in the current trajectory. As i say, youre fully aware of this, but all the data is coming from a lot of directions now!!
 
That's because it's not.

Not yet.

Apparently the opening Government line this morning , according to the BBC, was ... "We can either do Tier 3 with you, or without you" .... Burnham seems to be argueing against a decision that has ALREADY been taken.
 
Weird, I've been checking the BBC all morning and they havnt said it on there twitter or website.

what was it saying it?
Just one of those Breaking News’ things from the BBC website.That flashes up. The MEN are saying that there was a media leak from this mornings meeting. Maybe they put it up then took it down.
 
I wonder if the NHS covid app has caught up with this new govt. tier system? I mean, it's got to be a damn clever app, cost squillions to develop, is world beating etc etc. How many of you can say that the app has changed its covid alert status level in response to the govt. level changes?
 
England hospital death details:

14 Oct adds 13 = 13 after one day. Highest total added in past 24 hours since 17 June.

13 Oct adds 35 = 44 after two days.

12 Oct adds 11 = 62 after three days. Highest 3 day total since 4 June.

11 Oct adds 6 = 63 after four days. Highest 4 day total since 10 June.

10 Oct adds 4 = 52 after five days.

9 Oct adds 3 (=43), 8 Oct adds 1 (=53), 7 Oct adds 1 (= 57), 6 Oct adds 1 (=47), 4 Oct adds 2 (=35), 3 Oct adds 1 (=37) 29 Sep adds 1 (=34).

The other two date back to August.

22 of NWs 23 were in the past 5 days - which is more than there were from any other region over that same period. Even though many of the older ones topped up Yorkshire to a higher total reported today.

The NWs 23 reported today is double last weeks 11.
 
Many services contracts don't have penalty clauses. In fact I've been writing IT services contracts (as a vendor) for 30 years and have hardly ever included them. Lazy reporting from click-bait shit stirrers.
Penalty clauses are usually unenforceable in English law for any contract ( whether they're service or not).
You can however seek damages in any contract against a vendor/supplier for failure to perform depending on the wording of the contract.
So the Government could have negotiated a contract with these consultants which included provisions for damages if the consultants cocked up.
However I suspect the Government didn't have a clue about the specification for the services or the time to negotiate a contract and just handed the consultants a blank cheque on an hours worked basis.
 
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