VAR - 2020/21

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I’ve been watching football for decades , it’s a simple game & i’ve Enjoyed every up & down it’s brought ...until var , they’ve brought technology into a human activity & destroyed it , it’s not a science , there’s always been mistakes but now it just stinks of corruption . I was in hope that it would get that bad that fans would get together & wrestle our game back from these corrupt bastards that are deciding winners based on history & money . It was a forlorn hope & a shame that my decision to pack it in last year has proved correct

you just notice the corruption more now. Just shines a light on it better.

 

[ballinio]

you just notice the corruption more now. Just shines a light on it better.

Maybe

 

[richardtheref]

anybody working with the club should be all over last night with VAR and take a video to PGMOL for answers
4 or 5 major points that are clear cheating by both the match officials and the VAR team

its not with my tinted blue spec's on that am watching last night. because we won the title before any ball was kicked last night. so we could watch the game and hope for a fair game for both teams ? but sadly everybody who watched last night game knows what was going on. even the hardest hates of manchester city could not defend the ref and the officials and VAR last night

ok VAR is not perfect we all know that but every time i have watch the replay's you could see what was happening
even a foul on jesus the ref was going to blow his whistle but waved play on because brighton was on the break

still puzzle to see why VAR see that as red card ? wellbeck clearly puts his arm over cancelo shoulder and pulls him down ? its clear as day not even close ? 2nd the pen at the end clear contact on jesus foot stone wall pen just waved away. 3rd foul on gundogan if that's not a red card i don't know what is anymore. 4th offside given from a throw-inn
5th why was brightons 3 goal not checked by VAR and its lines

the VAR team checked dais for hand ball and city both gaols was checked ? so why did they just give the goal ???

Dan Burn more or less confirmed afterwards that he thought he was off side but it sounded like the ref told him there was no need. I also agree that it was Wellbeck who initialised the "coming together". Watching it last night I fully expected Cancelo red to be over turned. Also bizarre explanation as to why the Brighton player was not sent off for the assault on Gundogan. Have checked the laws of the game and FA interpretations & nowhere does it state anything about straight legs or bent legs

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Dan Burn more or less confirmed afterwards that he thought he was off side but it sounded like the ref told him there was no need. I also agree that it was Wellbeck who initialised the "coming together". Watching it last night I fully expected Cancelo red to be over turned. Also bizarre explanation as to why the Brighton player was not sent off for the assault on Gundogan. Have checked the laws of the game and FA interpretations & nowhere does it state anything about straight legs or bent legs.

That was the bullshit excuse Walton came up with to justify why Atwell was 'correct' in not sending him off.

It stinks of a top to bottom conspiracy.

 

[Double R]

Another absurd decision tonight. Loris clatters Watkins, no penalty. Its becaming farcical.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Another absurd decision tonight. Loris clatters Watkins, no penalty. Its becaming farcical.

It a deliberate 'f*ck you' to the fans.

'We'll do what we want'.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Daniel Sturridge possibly tells a mate he’s getting transferred and the bookies open a market. Mate has a bet and Sturridge gets a 4 month ban and fined £150K.
Tony Bloom, professional gambler and owner of a highly successful ‘football result prediction service‘, who makes most of his money on the Asian betting markets and also owns and is the chairman of BHA. No conflict of interest there then......

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

VAR will check if a goalkeeper is a millimeter off his line when saving a penalty, VAR will check a possible offside, again to the nearest millimeter. It therefore surprises me, when watching a GK run to the edge of his area to kick out of hand, just how often they are over the line when they launch the ball, sometimes by a good margin. I wonder if the refs' and linos' are advised to ignore what could be classed as a sending off offence.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

VAR will check if a goalkeeper is a millimeter off his line when saving a penalty, VAR will check a possible offside, again to the nearest millimeter. It therefore surprises me, when watching a GK run to the edge of his area to kick out of hand, just how often they are over the line when they launch the ball, sometimes by a good margin. I wonder if the refs' and linos' are advised to ignore what could be classed as a sending off offence.

Even GK off his line is subjective as the VAR commander can just choose which frame of the ball leaving the foot of the penalty taker they want to use.

 

[blueju]

crazy that people think its a clean sports hahahaha plus VAR is not doing the job it was brought in for
everybody was lied and fooled into what it was being used for in the first place. now with VAR the people involved in the corruption has a 2nd bite of the cherry

i was laughing my balls off last night ? not just with the officials but the BT-sports people trying to defend them
they are all in it together and from video replays not being shown to commentators moving on fast from a incident in talking about something else ? its all planned and very well worked to a point of brainwashing some people into thinking what they are watching is right

pundits or ex-referees working on games are truly talking nonsense and muppets ? they get patted and given a treat for keeping in line and dare cross it. how on earth can anybody defend that tackle on gundogan last night unless your told to ? nobody that has been involved in the game can say that is not a red card. its even serious dangerous play with intent to injury him and more than a 3 game ban

there should be a petition to remove Peter Walton for the BT-sports commentator team after what he said last night

Townsend thought a yellow card was ‘probably right’. As an ex player I don’t think he’d have been saying that if it was his knee.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

I'm in favor of VAR - it's been a work in progress, but it's getting better and better.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Misty eyed turkey's voted for Christmas unfortunately. Authorities and Sky will take it as carte blanche.
Expect more legitimized cheating of results and newer ways to achieve the desired outcomes.
Needed to be a complete overhaul of the structure, personnel and hierarchy throughout the corrupt web of football. The breakaway should have issued a pre-emptive, alturuistic mission statement, sadly Sly and the beeb etc stole the march and the narrative and we're stuck with it. Oh and oh so grateful.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I'm in favor of VAR - it's been a work in progress, but it's getting better and better.

One way of looking at it.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

One way of looking at it.

A friend of mine hates VAR.

He often complains about:
1) Stupid VAR decisions such as numerous by-the-rulebook handball decisions earlier this year - VAR makes the correct call based on the extant rules - but the rules are obviously so counter to desired outcome that the VAR decision is universally panned - this isn't a fault of VAR, but of the extant rules.

Indeed, in these cases, VAR did exactly what was intended - enforce the rules exactly as written.

The big problem was that the rules - as written - were to no one's liking.

2) VAR took far too long to come to a decision. This is a legitimate complaint against VAR - but it's now far better, far quicker, than it was 6 months ago.

Anyhow, my friend still hates VAR - even though problems 1 and 2 have been mostly corrected.

 

[marco]

Daniel Sturridge possibly tells a mate he’s getting transferred and the bookies open a market. Mate has a bet and Sturridge gets a 4 month ban and fined £150K.
Tony Bloom, professional gambler and owner of a highly successful ‘football result prediction service‘, who makes most of his money on the Asian betting markets and also owns and is the chairman of BHA. No conflict of interest there then......

always said its not about dressing football up to make it look better than what it is by having different champions every other season, its about betting, im sure as you say above a lot of money is being made on the Asian betting markets but i think there is corruption closer to home by the circle of those involved by this i mean refs and PGMOL,this being the gateway to corruption, put those two together and you have a licence to print money, BHA were 6/1 at start of that match for someone to lump 10k on wouldnt raise an eybrow but returns 70k with your stake money back, im a firm believer that Mark Halsey was ready to spill the beans a few years back but was silenced with a gagging order from the PL,its a can of worms that will one day be opened by someone who has been screwed over

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

A friend of mine hates VAR.

He often complains about:
1) Stupid VAR decisions such as numerous by-the-rulebook handball decisions earlier this year - VAR makes the correct call based on the extant rules - but the rules are obviously so counter to desired outcome that the VAR decision is universally panned - this isn't a fault of VAR, but of the extant rules.

Indeed, in these cases, VAR did exactly what was intended - enforce the rules exactly as written.

The big problem was that the rules - as written - were to no one's liking.

2) VAR took far too long to come to a decision. This is a legitimate complaint against VAR - but it's now far better, far quicker, than it was 6 months ago.

Anyhow, my friend still hates VAR - even though problems 1 and 2 have been mostly corrected.

What were your thoughts on the 6 incidents it got wrong on Tuesday (our game: sending off, non red card for gundo foul, non-penalty), the Cavanni offside, the non-chelsea pen and then the soft one later awarded)? These are all decisions that VAR should get right every time, but it doesn't

VAR is a system that incorporates people and relies on them. They are all rubbish. Until that improves VAR isn't worth the side effects (forensic analysis of goals, inconsistent implication, not getting the basics right, and runining the enjoyment of goals) IMHO.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

What were your thoughts on the 6 incidents it got wrong on Tuesday (our game: sending off, non red card for gundo foul, non-penalty), the Cavanni offside, the non-chelsea pen and then the soft one later awarded)? These are all decisions that VAR should get right every time, but it doesn't

VAR is a system that incorporates people and relies on them. They are all rubbish. Until that improves VAR isn't worth the side effects (forensic analysis of goals, inconsistent implication, not getting the basics right, and runining the enjoyment of goals) IMHO.

As I said - it's a work in progress and is getting better.

Your sentiment is much closer to that of my friend's - you hate VAR. Maybe as VAR improves you'll come to favor it - maybe not.

 

[ancoats]

Townsend thought a yellow card was ‘probably right’. As an ex player I don’t think he’d have been saying that if it was his knee.

that was one of my points that tv that pundits are covering the back of the officials and not speaking out in fear of losing there job. ian cheeseman was in a good job at the bbc as match day commentator for manchester city
but spoke out after anthony taylor single handed give chelsea the win at the etihad ? even a stone wall red card for David Luiz after foul on aguero and he was the last man but somehow got changed to a foul for chelsea

antony taylor went to his pocket and almost give the red card but somebody in his ear told him to forget it ? this was before VAR so control was always there by the head officials

the tv commentators and pundits are well drilled in the job and told what to say or not say ? its clear everybody in tv hate manchester city or told to not give us credit and bring up the money the FFP bans. fines. the value on the bench and empty etihad its to well drilled you know its coming week in week out

 

[ancoats]

What were your thoughts on the 6 incidents it got wrong on Tuesday (our game: sending off, non red card for gundo foul, non-penalty), the Cavanni offside, the non-chelsea pen and then the soft one later awarded)? These are all decisions that VAR should get right every time, but it doesn't

VAR is a system that incorporates people and relies on them. They are all rubbish. Until that improves VAR isn't worth the side effects (forensic analysis of goals, inconsistent implication, not getting the basics right, and runining the enjoyment of goals) IMHO.

VAR works perfect and its a tool to now control the game and change results in a flash
the premier league official's could not believe their luck when it got the green light for the premier league games

the premier league officials on VAR are now like playing FIFA on a PS5 ? they control the game and if they don't like something its changed the match officials are just for show

 

[Double R]

VAR will check if a goalkeeper is a millimeter off his line when saving a penalty, VAR will check a possible offside, again to the nearest millimeter. It therefore surprises me, when watching a GK run to the edge of his area to kick out of hand, just how often they are over the line when they launch the ball, sometimes by a good margin. I wonder if the refs' and linos' are advised to ignore what could be classed as a sending off offence.

Thought exactly the same the other night with one of Ederson's kicks. I guess its a rare use of common sense being used by all refs. If only the same common sense applied to offsides, handballs and soft as shit penalties.