PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Hence why the PL or UEFA won't use the word "fraud". To do so would trigger a criminal investigation & take the whole process out of their hands.

The PL know what they're accusing us off isn't fraud in UK Law, so if this farce was treated criminally, it wouldn't even get past the CPS & would be over.

Breaching the rules of a private members club, & breaking UK Law are two totally different things. It's total self serving bollocks by UEFA & the PL, at the behest of the G14/Sky four plus Spuds.
The aim has always been to smear us. It started with behind closed doors conversations involving our commercial rivals and the PL hierarchy. Masters knew the City witchunt would go nowhere but bowed to pressure and now he can't pull out without losing his job. Ironically Masters and his EFL counterpart Rick Parry are due for another grilling tomorrow in the Select Committee (on a different matter). But Masters knows he is finished whatever happens.
 
The aim has always been to smear us. It started with behind closed doors conversations involving our commercial rivals and the PL hierarchy. Masters knew the City witchunt would go nowhere but bowed to pressure and now he can't pull out without losing his job. Ironically Masters and his EFL counterpart Rick Parry are due for another grilling tomorrow in the Select Committee (on a different matter). But Masters knows he is finished whatever happens.
Exactly. The reputational damage is more than enough. If certain charges are deemed time-barred & we're found guilty of non-compliance, it's job done.

Our reputation will have been besmirched, with our opposition claiming we got away with the bulk of the breaches on statute of limitations technicalities.

Bastards!
 
I've not been on this thread for a while, but there's been a growing number of people talking about the merits of FFP (or P&S rules) and why it was introduced. I'd never seen this when City were the only club stifled by it (other than by Martin Samuel) but following the comments by the Newcastle board and Eddie Howe it's started to gain a bit of traction. Some are quick to shut it down but there have been plenty who have rightly acknowledged it suited the clubs with the highest revenue at the time. Some say that's just pure luck at the time it went in, others realise it's more than that and those clubs had sway to get it introduced. Unfortunately, there are plenty of Newcastle fans even who see this as unfair on their club, particularly when we just got away with doing what we wanted. Even though they see for themselves the hurdles in their way, rather than see common ground in us and what we had to do, they jump on our back as well.

We were able to bridge the gap as much as possible pre-FFP and now are in a position to comply with P&S rules because of our revenue. In many ways, we show exactly why the system is so wrong in the first place and on the pitch we're probably benefitting from it the most!
 
They're not included. The top clubs will either join a superleague or start a new version of the premier league.
Ah right, I see what you mean now. Well it's entirely possible (if not probable) for European competition. But whilst they control the domestic game, I don't see them leaving.
 
Love FFP. Benefits City more than anyone else.

Clubs who tried to put us in a straightjacket, didn't legislate for Pep making City the huge force we are, nor tying their own hands behind their backs.

I look forward tomorrow when Masters and Parry go in front of Ministers to explain why they haven't reached a financial arrangement with the Football League.

Popcorn TV.
 
Exactly. The reputational damage is more than enough. If certain charges are deemed time-barred & we're found guilty of non-compliance, it's job done.

Our reputation will have been besmirched, with our opposition claiming we got away with the bulk of the breaches on statute of limitations technicalities.

Bastards!
Not bothered in the least. The opinions of Jimmy_LFC_JFT97 and BillyYNWA matter little to me. If we are not found to have broken any rules then that's really all that matters.
 
Love FFP. Benefits City more than anyone else.

Clubs who tried to put us in a straightjacket, didn't legislate for Pep making City the huge force we are, nor tying their own hands behind their backs.

I look forward tomorrow when Masters and Parry go in front of Ministers to explain why they haven't reached a financial arrangement with the Football League.

Popcorn TV.
Yes. We pleaded with them. We warned them. We knew FFP was bad for football. We did not want it. They didn't listen. The club's voted it in and their fans offered no resistance. Now it benefits us. Now they are crying. Well I say "fuck em". You're not getting any sympathy from me. I hope FFP screws every club that voted for it.
 
Not the point I am making. I am not defending the extremist elements in places like Saudi just pointing out the hypocrisy of the western media. For example the UK and US have now started bombing Houthi rebels in the Yemen. When the Saudi and UAE forces did this there was an outcry over here with the usual suspects blaming it all on Sheikh Mansour.
It's a false equivalence.
 
I see an awful LOT of opposition fans, football fans in general, harping on about how the PL is fixed, full of cheats, corrupt etc...

The PL really are shooting themselves in the foot.

Feels like ffp is unravelling but only because the clubs that voted for it are now being screwed by it.

The more clubs that fail ffp while the red tops avoid it the more the anger towards ffp and red tops will grow
 
Feels like ffp is unravelling but only because the clubs that voted for it are now being screwed by it.

The more clubs that fail ffp while the red tops avoid it the more the anger towards ffp and red tops will grow
Or even better- teams are failing and being put at risk for point deductions while Man United breach and suffer only a $250K fine.

I’m hopeful that clubs are waking up to understand their interests have never been aligned with the redtops.
 
Or even better- teams are failing and being put at risk for point deductions while Man United breach and suffer only a $250K fine.

I’m hopeful that clubs are waking up to understand their interests have never been aligned with the redtops.
Different governing body
 
Yes. We pleaded with them. We warned them. We knew FFP was bad for football. We did not want it. They didn't listen. The club's voted it in and their fans offered no resistance. Now it benefits us. Now they are crying. Well I say "fuck em". You're not getting any sympathy from me. I hope FFP screws every club that voted for it.
Especially those that pushed for this in the first place..a nice bit of karma ..
 
Did I hear earlier tooday that FFP is going to be scrapped? Is that because u***ed are in the shit and going to get taken over to enable them to outbid every other club without any restrictions just like the 'good old days' ??? !!! Or if true is it just a coincidence........
 
Exactly. The reputational damage is more than enough. If certain charges are deemed time-barred & we're found guilty of non-compliance, it's job done.

Our reputation will have been besmirched, with our opposition claiming we got away with the bulk of the breaches on statute of limitations technicalities.

Bastards!
i do think the penny is starting to drop with some opposition fans. I met Geordies before and after the game on Saturday in the pub and on the train and they were all great. They have seen the FFP farce in all its true colours. They all appeared to have a deep hatred of Arsenal (because of diving and time-wasting); United (because they lead the cartel); and Liverpool (because the scouse fanbase causes trouble everytime they play Newcastle apparently).
 
i do think the penny is starting to drop with some opposition fans. I met Geordies before and after the game on Saturday in the pub and on the train and they were all great. They have seen the FFP farce in all its true colours. They all appeared to have a deep hatred of Arsenal (because of diving and time-wasting); United (because they lead the cartel); and Liverpool (because the scouse fanbase causes trouble everytime they play Newcastle apparently).
Newcastle and Villa must be looking at the mess they were signed up to in order to defend the status quo, the good it would do their clubs in the long term if their rich owners were able to invest as you would invest in any other business, and wonder what the hell is going on.
 

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