Bluemanc100
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That won't help sadly... I can't see Vinny being a patch on the old version
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Fight from the beginning and then build from there, these cowards fight
Yeah taking the battle from the off helps!
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That midfield yesterday didn't seem to have any structure. Although I'd love to see it refreshed with the likes of Weigl and Pogba; It would be great to see what Pep could get out of this lot. I think the center of our defence (without demichelis, with denayer) would suit his style. Guessing he'd like a pair or pacey fullbacks though.
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The match was actually not that bad, but some of the comments here makes me feel as if we are a team struggling with relegation. Granted the performance all around the pitch was poor. Hart was on occasion to slow to react, Zaba partly responsible for the second goal, MDM too slow, Otamendi too rash, Kolarov aiming every cross at opposition defenders instead of a blue shirt, Fernandinho having an off day for a change, Yaya anonymus in both attack and defence, Delph's passing left a lot to be desired, Sterling ought to have used his brain more, Silva showing signs of life in the first half but disappearing in the second. Even Sergio should have been more clinical and moved more despite the lack of service, and Kelechi was rather prone to lose the ball. The only one meeting/exceeding expectations was probably Celina whom not many was expecting to feature in the match.
But was it really that diabolical? While they deserve to win for being the more defensive and clinical team, a 1-0 or 2-0 perhaps reflects the overall performance better. It pains me to see them scoring three against us, and that may have been why everyone has been so negative here, but this is by no means the worst match in recent memories. Is it worse than Stoke away? Or West Ham away? Or the second half against Spurs? Our midfield was much more ineffective in those matches than against Leicester. At least against Leicester I still had hope that our players can hold onto the ball long enough to plan an attack, not GIVING IT AWAY straight after receiving in our own half and then wasting the rest of the match either standing or running after the ball like a headless chicken.
At least I see more of that free-flowing city returning. Surely possession can be useless without meaningful attack, but like it or not City is a possession-based attacking team and this will only be emphasized more under Pep. Possession is fundamental in both attack and defence for City, especially with players like KDB and Navas injured and Leicester deadly on counter-attacks, and yesterday City's passing gives me hope that the TEAM as a whole is improving, albeit to little effect. Whether we can put in a better performance next Sunday remains a question, but hopefully the 13 healthy players can step up a plate, regain the lethal edge and get the team through the injury crisis.
HIndsight is a very wonderful thing. Criticize Pellegrini's selection all you want, but given our lack of options, his is a logical one. Delph may be deployed on the left to help Kolarov nullify Mahrez, which was not much of a success. And it is understandable that he started Yaya because he could gave us control with his passing. His plan may backfire, but to say that he was a poor manager and that he did not prepare specifically for Leicester is really unappreciative of what we have. Not everyone is Pep for god's sake. On the injury part, I agree that he may be overplaying senior players in cup games and there might be some problems with the training regime. But hey, we are not the ones managing the team are we?
Same with the players. Of course it is ok to criticize the players for poor performances, but some here just go too far. It is utterly a shame to see some here labelling players "finished" and "lacking desire" and wanting them to be gone. Yesterday I saw 11 players who wanted to win, even for Yaya and Silva. Yaya's case was perhaps arguable, but at one time in second half Yaya was shouting at others, probably to urge them to concentrate, and most of the time it was Silva who initiated the attack. Just because Silva didn't track back a lot doesn't mean he's disinterested. For fuck's sake, he is INJURED enough to fly to Spain to see the national doctor. His presence on the pitch told the story. Tough as he is, he would be mad if he tried tackling and running from one end to the other of the pitch after twisting his ankle. Naturally his form suffered a lot due to persisting injury, but the heavy slagging he received both here and on twitter is simply a DISRESPECT to the player's ability and the service he has given to the club. It only shows how impatient and short-sighted fans can be nowadays. Look at the Iniesta last season and the Iniesta now. You'd be surprised how full fitness makes a difference in players.
Have faith! This season is far from finished. City are known to do it the hard way, but that also means we are capable of miracles.
But was it really that diabolical? While they deserve to win for being the more defensive and clinical team, a 1-0 or 2-0 perhaps reflects the overall performance better. It pains me to see them scoring three against us, and that may have been why everyone has been so negative here, but this is by no means the worst match in recent memories. Is it worse than Stoke away? Or West Ham away? Or the second half against Spurs? Our midfield was much more ineffective in those matches than against Leicester. At least against Leicester I still had hope that our players can hold onto the ball long enough to plan an attack, not GIVING IT AWAY straight after receiving in our own half and then wasting the rest of the match either standing or running after the ball like a headless chicken.
At least I see more of that free-flowing city returning. Surely possession can be useless without meaningful attack, but like it or not City is a possession-based attacking team and this will only be emphasized more under Pep. Possession is fundamental in both attack and defence for City, especially with players like KDB and Navas injured and Leicester deadly on counter-attacks, and yesterday City's passing gives me hope that the TEAM as a whole is improving, albeit to little effect. Whether we can put in a better performance next Sunday remains a question, but hopefully the 13 healthy players can step up a plate, regain the lethal edge and get the team through the injury crisis.
HIndsight is a very wonderful thing. Criticize Pellegrini's selection all you want, but given our lack of options, his is a logical one. Delph may be deployed on the left to help Kolarov nullify Mahrez, which was not much of a success. And it is understandable that he started Yaya because he could gave us control with his passing. His plan may backfire, but to say that he was a poor manager and that he did not prepare specifically for Leicester is really unappreciative of what we have. Not everyone is Pep for god's sake. On the injury part, I agree that he may be overplaying senior players in cup games and there might be some problems with the training regime. But hey, we are not the ones managing the team are we?
Same with the players. Of course it is ok to criticize the players for poor performances, but some here just go too far. It is utterly a shame to see some here labelling players "finished" and "lacking desire" and wanting them to be gone. Yesterday I saw 11 players who wanted to win, even for Yaya and Silva. Yaya's case was perhaps arguable, but at one time in second half Yaya was shouting at others, probably to urge them to concentrate, and most of the time it was Silva who initiated the attack. Just because Silva didn't track back a lot doesn't mean he's disinterested. For fuck's sake, he is INJURED enough to fly to Spain to see the national doctor. His presence on the pitch told the story. Tough as he is, he would be mad if he tried tackling and running from one end to the other of the pitch after twisting his ankle. Naturally his form suffered a lot due to persisting injury, but the heavy slagging he received both here and on twitter is simply a DISRESPECT to the player's ability and the service he has given to the club. It only shows how impatient and short-sighted fans can be nowadays. Look at the Iniesta last season and the Iniesta now. You'd be surprised how full fitness makes a difference in players.
Have faith! This season is far from finished. City are known to do it the hard way, but that also means we are capable of miracles.
City have been predictable and dull to watch for 18 months, bar a purple patch at the start of the season.
The team has had 3 or 4 hidings this season, but still seem unable to snap out of the slumber.
Granted the injury situation has hindered continuity in the team. But the lack of hunger, ability to take responsibility of situations and general lack of awareness of the opposing team strengths and weaknesses is down to poor prep.
It is down to the manager and his staff to do these basics.
How City perform until the end of the season is up to the players and their professional pride.
As the majority of them look completely knackered and unfit and bereft of ideas and confidence could be a bumpy ride.
The team has had 3 or 4 hidings this season, but still seem unable to snap out of the slumber.
Granted the injury situation has hindered continuity in the team. But the lack of hunger, ability to take responsibility of situations and general lack of awareness of the opposing team strengths and weaknesses is down to poor prep.
It is down to the manager and his staff to do these basics.
How City perform until the end of the season is up to the players and their professional pride.
As the majority of them look completely knackered and unfit and bereft of ideas and confidence could be a bumpy ride.
Two classic photos in The Sunday Times confirm my suspicions about the two set piece goals. First Huth has a chunk of Dimichleis's shirt =foul
Second Morgan I front of Huth has pushed Kolarov to clear space for Huth=foul
Says it all
Yes we can beat anyone but difference is you have to compete- we did not do enough of that yesterday
Plus it is time to up the level of refereeing in Prem- we had two blatant offside goals against v Spurs , denied clear pens v Everton wtf!!
Second Morgan I front of Huth has pushed Kolarov to clear space for Huth=foul
Says it all
Yes we can beat anyone but difference is you have to compete- we did not do enough of that yesterday
Plus it is time to up the level of refereeing in Prem- we had two blatant offside goals against v Spurs , denied clear pens v Everton wtf!!
bluemoon98
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Our goal was offside so stop fucking moaning
- Only 14 fit players? "His man management is shite, he should play the kids"
- Plays the kids and we lose early in a cup run, "What a shite squad selection"
- Players back him, must be because they fear for their jobs? He's leaving, why does their support matter in the slightest? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard on here.
The logic of you would-be managers is astonishing. I bet most of you would replace him with Mancini, who when he was sacked had left the squad morale in the shitter, lost the FA cup final to Wigan-fucking-athletic, gotten 3 points in the group stage of the CL, and lost the league title defense by a near-record deficit.
It's comical, some of your knee-jerk opinions.
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I think the most worrisome thing is how much all the players struggled to get the ball to either Kelechi or Aguero...
uwe rosler 28
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This clueless twat is going to ruin our season fuck off noe pellers and let kidd see it through to the end of the season!
somethingelse
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The free kick wall was poorly organised, the ball came across almost square that's so bad ,needed 3 or 4 in the wall.
Aguero had 8 yards of goal to put the ball in when he latched onto that backpass- if he had gone right instead of left as the keeper was totally out of position,that would of set up a decent finish
Aguero had 8 yards of goal to put the ball in when he latched onto that backpass- if he had gone right instead of left as the keeper was totally out of position,that would of set up a decent finish
The logic of you would-be managers is astonishing. I bet most of you would replace him with Mancini, who when he was sacked had left the squad morale in the shitter, lost the FA cup final to Wigan-fucking-athletic, gotten 3 points in the group stage of the CL, and lost the league title defense by a near-record deficit.
It's comical, some of your knee-jerk opinions.
Morale looks fucking great at the moment doesn't it?
Chances of actually reaching the FA Cup final this year with the way we're playing?
Losing the league title by 11 points was really poor. We only lost it by 8 last year so that's decent is it?
And by the way, I wouldn't have Mancini back.
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MarvinI think you are all going OTT over Pellegrini.
We have about 14 fit senior players according to pellegrini. That's the main reason behind our performances.
We've performed like this most of the games, even when we've had a relatively full squad?
This is not a one off performance. We are flat track bullies, where anytime anyone with a spine or semblance of tactical nous turns up, we look like a shower.
We're currently sitting 4th, are the worst 'team' at the moment in the top 4, and unless something drastic changes will be fighting the rags for 4th.
How that can be with the squad/talent at our disposal points is beyond me.
But was it really that diabolical? While they deserve to win for being the more defensive and clinical team, a 1-0 or 2-0 perhaps reflects the overall performance better.
Seriously?
I genuinely think we wouldn't have had too much room for complaint if they'd stuck 5 or 6 past us.
Morale looks fucking great at the moment doesn't it?
Chances of actually reaching the FA Cup final this year with the way we're playing?
Losing the league title by 11 points was really poor. We only lost it by 8 last year so that's decent is it?
And by the way, I wouldn't have Mancini back.
Please tell me the last time morale was anything but shit in January/February?
We've already reached the League Cup final, but I think there's a decent chance of getting the FA cup final.
8 is less than 11, but it's usually what happens after winning the title. If I had the spare time I'd search back and I bet I could find favorable words about Maureen from you. Gee, he did well this season's title defense, didn't he? World class manager on track to get last year's title winners relegated, and you're going to moan about 8 points and second place? Jesus....
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Seriously?
I genuinely think we wouldn't have had too much room for complaint if they'd stuck 5 or 6 past us.
Well I think given how badly we have been playing since December it is not that bad in comparison. At Stoke I really feared that they would put 5 against us but not yesterday. But then it is a matter of opinion?
TCIB
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I think the most worrisome thing is how much all the players struggled to get the ball to either Kelechi or Aguero...
I think most accept the midfield was a non entity yesterday sadly, this accounts for your noting the detachment of the front to the rest imo.
citizenfan
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The media love a good story and Leicester it is. Too many doom and gloom merchants on here.
Having watched the game again it was evident the officials had an off day. Someone already mentioned the infringement on the first goal it was also a fluke.
Morgan should've walked for two bad fouls on Kun, two claims for a penalty not given - Zabs and Fernando, third goal a goal kick should've been given and then Huth climbs all over MDM to get the header in. We were not outplayed and had enough chances to get something perhaps a draw.
Having watched the game again it was evident the officials had an off day. Someone already mentioned the infringement on the first goal it was also a fluke.
Morgan should've walked for two bad fouls on Kun, two claims for a penalty not given - Zabs and Fernando, third goal a goal kick should've been given and then Huth climbs all over MDM to get the header in. We were not outplayed and had enough chances to get something perhaps a draw.
stan bowles
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We have bigger problems than Hart, but he is a problem. I think he really is that thick tbh.
Why did Zaba not stop the cross coming in ? Why did Yaya pull out of the 50-50 with Kante ? Why did Kolarov give that stupid free kick away ? Why did Dimichelis not get to the free kick first and actually defend it properly ? On the list of our current 100 biggest problems, Joe Hart is probably at number 99. Best GK in the league.
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I think the biggest problem we have is that we are in the midst of what should be a sacking situation.
Imo the only reason Pellegrini is currently in employment is because the Pep deal has been in the offing for a long time. In normal circumstances, the manager would have been fired ages ago , replaced either by a caretaker as with Chelsea or a new manager as with Hughes & Mancini.
Either way, some new ideas & a bit of a boost would have likely ensued & perhaps some ins & outs in the January window, which could have us flying right now.
Instead we are limping along with a manager who has completely run out of ideas but has agreed to let another guy take his job, so we are just hoping he gets his shit together rather than taking action, as he has been promised he can do what he wants provided he plays his part in the plan. He gets a crack at winning trophies in spite of his performance so far.
Pep hasn't spoiled Pellegrini's season, he's kept him in a job.
Imo the only reason Pellegrini is currently in employment is because the Pep deal has been in the offing for a long time. In normal circumstances, the manager would have been fired ages ago , replaced either by a caretaker as with Chelsea or a new manager as with Hughes & Mancini.
Either way, some new ideas & a bit of a boost would have likely ensued & perhaps some ins & outs in the January window, which could have us flying right now.
Instead we are limping along with a manager who has completely run out of ideas but has agreed to let another guy take his job, so we are just hoping he gets his shit together rather than taking action, as he has been promised he can do what he wants provided he plays his part in the plan. He gets a crack at winning trophies in spite of his performance so far.
Pep hasn't spoiled Pellegrini's season, he's kept him in a job.
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