I wouldn't bother mate, some people just cannot understand the very simple concept of party politics. Trouble is we do now live in a generation where everything is instant and people have forgotten to learn how to wait and let natural progression happen. I want it and I want it now! Is the mantra if the in campaign, seemingly.Oh, will they be the government on Friday?
What an own goal
That was aimed at the the House of Lords, one of the sovereign organisations of this country which is unelected and no has democracy to remove.
You seem have been happily putting up shite for the last hour or so, i am sure you are google savvy to find it.
More to the point as every side agrees the NHS and social care are heavily reliant on immigrant workers from top to bottom. Vote leave and we will need to find some highly skilled health workers bloody quickly
That's not true. There's nothing set in stone yet.
There's been attempts to ensure the NHS would be protected but nothing is guaranteed. And becoming part of TTIP will make it more difficult to reverse the current creeping privatisation in the NHS that has already taken place.
And it was bollocks the first time. TTIP (which you originally and wrongly told us was dead so your previous on this isn't really too clever) is still being negotiated. The EU has said it plans to try to include provisions to exempt certain publicly funded bodies from being subject to the full market provisions of TTIP but there's no guarantees that it will achieve that. The Yanks could simply refuse to include it or there could be a theoretical exemption which private companies could drive a coach and horses through.
Do you honestly believe when we won't control our food supply, energy supply, defence, infrastructure , taxation , employment etc that we control our own future.
It is an idealistic notion based on a world of the 19th century
Here are a few that strongly believe the UK should remain a member of the EU:
• Governor of the Bank of England
• International Monetary Fund
• Institute for Fiscal Studies
• Confederation of British Industry
• Leaders/heads of state of every single other member of the EU
• President of the United States of America
• Eight former US Treasury Secretaries
• President of China
• Prime Minister of India
• Prime Minister of Canada
• Prime Minister of Australia
• Prime Minister of Japan
• Prime Minister of New Zealand
• The chief executives of most of the top 100 companies in the UK including Marks and Spencer, BT, Asda, Vodafone, Virgin, IBM, BMW etc.
• Kofi Annan, the former Secretary General of the United Nations
• All living former Prime Ministers of the UK (from both parties)
• Virtually all reputable and recognised economists
• The Prime Minister of the UK
• The leader of the Labour Party
• The Leader of the Liberal Democrats
• The Leader of the Green Party
• The Leader of the Scottish National Party
• The leader of Plaid Cymru
• Leader of Sinn Fein
• Martin Lewis, that money saving dude off the telly
• The Secretary General of the TUC
• Unison
• National Union of Students
• National Union of Farmers
• Stephen Hawking
• Chief Executive of the NHS
• 300 of the most prominent international historians
• Director of Europol
• David Anderson QC, Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation
• Former Directors of GCHQ
• Secretary General of Nato
• Church of England
• Church in Scotland
• Church in Wales
• Friends of the Earth
• Greenpeace
• Director General of the World Trade Organisation
• WWF
• World Bank
• OECD
Here are pretty much the only notable people who think we should leave the EU:
• Boris Johnson, who probably doesn’t really care either way, but knows he’ll become Prime Minister if the country votes to leave
• A former Secretary of State for Work and Pensions who carried out a brutal regime of cuts to benefits and essential support for the poorest in society as well as the disabled and sick
• The guy who was Education Secretary and every single teacher in the country hated with a furious passion for the damage he was doing to the education system
• Leader of UKIP
• BNP
• Britain First
• Donald Trump
• Keith Chegwin
• David Icke
Where the EU has expanded its influence, we / the UK have sometimes challenged that (e.g. European Working Time Directive) but failed, partly due to lack of evidence. In this case the EU has set out in writing that the NHS is exempt from TTIP.
From doing some digging it's a very selective ( shock ) graph, this seems to the extra that was asked from countries that were doing well after the recession, ours had a good year in comparrison to the others so we were asked for more cash.
Eu membership is based on GDP, so the better you do the more you pay and help out those not doing so well.
It's the entire point of the EU, the stronger economy's help out the weaker to build a bigger stronger Europe. If we stay part of the EU and for what ever reason our gdp takes a hit we will be bolstered by it.
When are people going to understand that Brexit is not a political party and is in no position to develop strategies and policies. They can sahre views such as they did with immigration but they cannot day Previselycisely what will happen on D +1 should we got Brexit. That honour falls to Mr Camerom as it stands right now. However if we did vote out and Cameron did a ghe honourable thing, elements within the Tory party would then begin to formulate plans about how to leave, whoever is the most trusted and has the most coherent plans will probably take us forward. However, if the Tiry government is so fracture and a able to pull itself together then (and I personally think that's how it will be) there will be an election, at which time the political parties can offer you their plans to go forward and we can vote accordingly.
I just wish people would stop looking for something that just cannot physically exist at this moment in time.
Majority of lemmings in favour of jumping off cliff
A new poll has revealed that over 50% of the lemming population favour jumping off the cliff to an almost certain messy and agonising death.
“The poll results are fascinating,” said lemming pollster Simon Williams.
“Lemmings have a happy, comfortable, enjoyable life on top of the cliff and yet many of them believe that a suicidal jump onto the jagged rocks below would give them a better quality of life.”
A senior lemming figure from the ‘Vote Jump’ campaign group explained.
“Some lemmings say that a huge drop onto jagged rocks would be fatal, but the fact is that no lemming really knows what would happen if we all jumped onto a bunch of jagged rocks; we could bounce, the rocks could disappear, or we could strike up a robust trading deal with the rocks.
“All of these are all very real possibilities.
“To say that we would all be broken and killed by the rocks is just blatant scaremongering by a centralised elite group who seemingly have no confidence in the resilient nature of us lemmings.”
A ‘Vote Jump’ supporter agreed.
“Yeah, we’d be better off jumping for definite,” he said.
“I mean, yeah, being on top of the cliff and not dying and everything is great, but there are so many voles and guinea pigs coming in now that it just doesn’t feel like a lemming cliff anymore, you know?”
could take up to 20 years to get the economy back to where it is today.
You think they wouldn't class themselves as iconic?Fucking stop it. Rolls Royce would beg to diffe, as would Virgin.
That will be the huge challenge they face. Can you really see such prominent figures such as Johnson, Caeron, Gove, Osborne, Grayling, Redwood, Patel, IDS working harmoniously alongside each other? I can't. There will be a titanic struggle for power whatever the outcome unless it turns out to be a significant majority say bigger than 54-46 to remain. It's going to be interesting.If the Tory government will be so fractured that a general election is required, how will the Tories be able to offer plans to go forward at that general election?
Remain looks pretty certain at this point. I still find it astonishing that the entire future of your nation will be determined by one murdered MP. Saw a graphic on FB showing how the polls basically flipped practically the day after it happened.
Are people even voting for the right reasons? Seems to me the decision should be about what's best for the country in the future, not letting one murderer determine the future of your nation.
What I really can't understand is why the EU can't be amended to fix the concerns people have. According to the last poll I saw, immigration was viewed overwhemingly negatively by voters, yet they seemed to like most of the other aspects of EU membership. So why not just abandon that one thing and end the issue that has the EU on the brink of its own demise?
Right back at you. Nothing PB said there was incorrect.You don't half talk some shite, you really do.
You may have helped me feel better about my IN vote if you are a symptom of being educated when Britain stood alone and out side of Europe.The Brexits better hope they lose.... which they will,because, it is a fucking crazy idea. If we leave, the country's entire education system needs a good seeing to.