PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Never-mind all that nonsense. Are you ready to slay the dips? -:)

Of course, I take it 1 goal and 1 assist will suffice?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

This is not right. The amount of clubs who challenge is getting smaller and smaller.
The pl is destroying itself to save 3 red top +spuds.

Fans dream of their club being successful and it's being taken away from them. Not by results on the pitch but by accountants.

Also the selling club will be in a weaker position to push for a good price as the buying clubs knows they have to sell. The whole think stinks.

Are City the only club that welcome competition ?

The PL isn’t destroying itself, it’s doing exactly how market forces dictate. It’s all in the numbers and if those point to the red shite taking up subscriptions, they are all in.

 

[meltonblue]

If Masters had an ounce of integrity he would resign. He took over what was a fairly united league (pun intended), and now sits in charge of a fractured league with rules being made up as they go along. It's all so fucking transparent.

Bear in mind the PL is owned by the clubs themselves, every single rule change has to be approved by a majority of them. Masters really doesn’t have as much power or authority as some seem to think.

It’s clubs owners that have fucked the whole thing up, either through the big clubs wanting to keep the status quo or owners of smaller clubs just happy to sit on a cash cow who looked to reduce the risks to the fact they weren’t investing themselves by not allowing any other owner to invest either.

All of it stems back to the formation of the PL in the first place, and if a fan of United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs or Everton ever moans about it, they in particular can all fuck right off. Everything that has happened since is entirely their fault.

If fans of those clubs have a go, I just remind them of that, this is all Frankenstein’s monster. They’re too fucking stupid to realise it.

 

[MCFC84000]

A handy link for all those fair deals in which, the third party were happy about. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/general-motors-exec-who-agreed-1218826

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Bear in mind the PL is owned by the clubs themselves, every single rule change has to be approved by a majority of them. Masters really doesn’t have as much power or authority as some seem to think.

It’s clubs owners that have fucked the whole thing up, either through the big clubs wanting to keep the status quo or owners of smaller clubs just happy to sit on a cash cow who looked to reduce the risks to the fact they weren’t investing themselves by not allowing any other owner to invest either.

All of it stems back to the formation of the PL in the first place, and if a fan of United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs or Everton ever moans about it, they in particular can all fuck right off. Everything that has happened since is entirely their fault.

If fans of those clubs have a go, I just remind them of that, this is all Frankenstein’s monster. They’re too fucking stupid to realise it.

Masters is the **** in charge, he's the one conniving with and doing the deals for the redshirts in the back rooms. He's the one who had to pass a utd and dipper interview to get the job. He's the **** doing their bidding and bringing charges. Scudamore was a far stronger and able person for the job, and I'm sorry to see a blue fighting Masters corner.

He's a greasy, pole climbing, arse licking red shill ****.

 

[meltonblue]

Masters is the **** in charge, he's the one conniving with and doing the deals for the redshirts in the back rooms. He's the one who had to pass a utd and dipper interview to get the job. He's the **** doing their bidding and bringing charges. Scudamore was a far stronger and able person for the job, and I'm sorry to see a blue fighting Masters corner.

He's a greasy, pole climbing, arse licking red shill ****.

I’m not fighting his corner, not sure how you’d get that from my post, I’m saying he’s not as powerful as some think. Even if he is conniving with clubs, it still takes 14 of them to agree with whatever is proposed. It doesn’t really matter who is in charge of the PL as CEO, it’s always been more about the club owners. We’ve been involved in some back room deals with others too.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I’m not fighting his corner, not sure how you’d get that from my post, I’m saying he’s not as powerful as some think. Even if he is conniving with clubs, it still takes 14 of them to agree with whatever is proposed. It doesn’t really matter who is in charge of the PL as CEO, it’s always been more about the club owners. We’ve been involved in some back room deals with others too.

You are absolving him of blame for the situation.

And my original point was if he had an ounce of integrity then he would resign.

Do you believe Masters is a man of integrity?

Do you believe he treats all PL clubs as equals?

Why did he get the job when other applicants turned it down even after being offered it?

He's clearly in the pocket of our clubs enemies, and doing their bidding.

Scudamore wouldn't have rolled over like he has, to the detriment of the league.

He's a ****, end of.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

This thread has a great Legal Team.

Legal team is such a wank term.

 

[meltonblue]

And my original point was if he had an ounce of integrity then he would resign.

Do you believe Masters is a man of integrity?

Do you believe he treats all clubs as equals?

Why did he get the job when other applicants turned it down even after being offered it?

He's clearly in the pocket of our clubs enemies, and doing their bidding.

Scudamore wouldn't have rolled over like he has, to the detriment of the league.

He's a ****, end of.

Never said he wasn’t, I think anyone that takes the PL CEO role has to be a **** tbh given its set up. Just saying he’s not as relevant as some think he is and yes Scudamore would have rolled over the same, he’d have had no choice. He implemented FFP for the PL remember.

Our clubs enemies have been the majority of other clubs this past decade. It’s only now some of their own circumstances have changed that some of the narratives have started to turn. It’s self interest by owners that’s always been the issue and the main reason an independent regulator can’t come soon enough.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Never said he wasn’t, I think anyone that takes the PL CEO role has to be a **** tbh given its set up. Just saying he’s not as relevant as some think he is and yes Scudamore would have rolled over the same, he’d have had no choice. He implemented FFP for the PL remember.

Our clubs enemies have been the majority of other clubs this past decade. It’s only now some of their own circumstances have changed that some of the narratives has started to turn. It’s self interest by owners that’s always been the issue and the main reason an independent regulator can’t come soon enough.

Everyone knows the clubs are behind it, but Scudamore didn't allow them to break the league. Scudamore was much more even handed than Masters, who seems hell bent on overseeing a PL civil war, at the behest of his paymasters.

 

[wolviedinho]

Everyone knows the clubs are behind it, but Scudamore didn't allow them to break the league. Scudamore was much more even handed than Masters, who seems hell bent on overseeing a PL civil war, at the behest of his paymasters.

I genuinely believe they all want rid of the bad Muslim. He don’t belong here, we made the league and he is not good for sport in England. We(Americans, levy etc) need to save the league from this awful person who creates jobs, pumps millions into the economy and regenerates run down areas all the while making blue dreams come true. Nah he is not one of us Daniel. Don’t belong here!

Ok we will create loads of rules to chase him out. The corruption between certain clubs is disgusting.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I genuinely believe they all want rid of the bad Muslim. He don’t belong here, we made the league and he is not good for sport in England. We need to save the league from this awful person who creates jobs, pumps millions into the economy and regenerates run down areas all o while making blue dreams come true. Nah he is not one of us Daniel. Don’t belong here!

Ok we will create loads of rules to chase him out. The corruption between certain clubs is disgusting.

Ourselves and Newcastle will win the war mate, don't anyone consider otherwise.

There's already a shift in attitude, people know what's going on finally.

 

[wolviedinho]

With no official announcement on what is going on with the case. It’s always good to remember what has gone on before.

This is Khaldoon speaking about the uefa case. He has said nothing about the premier but a lot of what he says here can be used as how we view the 115 charges.

I was waiting for him to take off his Rafa(fact)mask…


Then after the charges:


He must have forgotten his Dr Evil costume! He don’t look like a man who has committed grand scale fraud!

 

[halfcenturyup]

I’m not fighting his corner, not sure how you’d get that from my post, I’m saying he’s not as powerful as some think. Even if he is conniving with clubs, it still takes 14 of them to agree with whatever is proposed. It doesn’t really matter who is in charge of the PL as CEO, it’s always been more about the club owners. We’ve been involved in some back room deals with others too.

He can be as powerful as he wants to be. The clubs aren't in charge of what gets discussed at the meetings. He is. They aren't responsible for presenting documentation to the meetings, he is. If there is something asked for by the clubs which goes against the spirit of competition or that he thinks will be challenged on the grounds of illegality, he should be strong enough to say no and the clubs can vote him out if they don't like it.

He is a patsy. Platini was a patsy as well and that is how all this shit started. Ceferin, at least, has some balls. Masters needs to grow some before the PL is in big trouble in the courts. One way or another, he won't be around much longer, he must know that. He should stand up, show some backbone and do what is right for once in his miserable existence.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Full article here without the paywall https://archive.ph/YDtDj

Well, what a load of bollocks. No organisation, connected to an owner or not, is going to lay bare its commercial sponsorship strategy to an organisation that leaks like a sieve, like the PL. The most they will get is a letter saying the deal is at a fair value to the sponsor and if the PL disapproves it, straight to court to get the whole thing thrown out.

The burden is on the club to show the sponsorship is at fair value? On what planet? The responsibility of any director at any club is to maximise revenues for the benefit of its shareholders. The PL has a problem? They can prove it.

This is just like the way they referee matches. Employ stupid interpretations, then when they are found to be stupid, change them into something more detailed and more stupid. It really is mind-boggling how badly is run the whole organisation.

 

[eyalluvitt]

Well, what a load of bollocks. No organisation, connected to an owner or not, is going to lay bare its commercial sponsorship strategy to an organisation that leaks like a sieve, like the PL. The most they will get is a letter saying the deal is at a fair value to the sponsor and if the PL disapproves it, straight to court to get the whole thing thrown out.

The burden is on the club to show the sponsorship is at fair value? On what planet? The responsibility of any director at any club is to maximise revenues for the benefit of its shareholders. The PL has a problem? They can prove it.

This is just like the way they referee matches. Employ stupid interpretations, then when they are found to be stupid, change them into something more detailed and more stupid. It really is mind-boggling how badly is run the whole organisation.

How long is a piece of string? Surely a sponsorship deal is worth what someone is willing to pay? Comparing our deals in 2008 to now is going to have a larger differential than certain other clubs because we started from much further back. The PL are becoming a boa constrictor around its own products neck

 

[Silva61]

He can be as powerful as he wants to be. The clubs aren't in charge of what gets discussed at the meetings. He is. They aren't responsible for presenting documentation to the meetings, he is. If there is something asked for by the clubs which goes against the spirit of competition or that he thinks will be challenged on the grounds of illegality, he should be strong enough to say no and the clubs can vote him out if they don't like it.

He is a patsy. Platini was a patsy as well and that is how all this shit started. Ceferin, at least, has some balls. Masters needs to grow some before the PL is in big trouble in the courts. One way or another, he won't be around much longer, he must know that. He should stand up, show some backbone and do what is right for once in his miserable existence.

Has anybody got an opinion on what the rags chairpersons role is at these PL meetings.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Has anybody got an opinion on what the rags chairpersons role is at these PL meetings.

She is a full-time executive Chairman as far as I can make out, although she doesn't seem to be referred to any where as executive, and she is keeping a very low profile, probably understandably.

She chairs the Board, which includes Masters and three non-executives, whose responsibilities are, according to the PL to (among other things):

- Manage the affairs of the Premier League including its operation and administration and the implementation of the Premier League Rules.
- Take such steps as it considers necessary to give effect to any policy resolved upon by clubs at a Shareholders’ Meeting.
- Make recommendations and proposals to clubs on matters of importance to the Premier League (including changes to the Premier League Rules).
- The Board has a wide range of roles and responsibilities under the Premier League Rules. It is the entity responsible for resolving disputes in many cases, as well as the body responsible for prosecuting breaches of the Rules when they occur.
- Where appropriate, in accordance with the Articles, the Board delegates authority to other groups or committees (such as the Premier League Football Board) to take decisions on its behalf.

So she seems to be equally as responsible for any mess the PL makes, as Masters himself.

May be wrong. Happy to be corrected.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

It's about time for a revolution if the other teams can get on board and pass something revolutionary like this:

1. For rigging the premier league.. Rags, Dips, Goons & Spurs kicked out of PL and to be deducted 114 points for the next 20 times they get back in.

2. All PGMOL/ VAR officials sacked and replaced with new

3. All so called rules made by them reset to 2005 (pre-glazer era) returning the Premier League to competition!

4. All charges against other teams dismissed.

The red cartel will sue sure.. but it can be delayed for a 100 years!

 

[Mancini Manus Domini]

If these new rules were in place when we first agreed our 10 year deal with Etihad I'm guessing it wouldn't have been approved.

The deal may have looked generous to us at the time but proved excellent value to Etihad.