Spurs (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

We're not getting outplayed by anyone, but we're getting outthought. Opposition are quite happy for us to have the vast majority of possession as we seldom do much with it. We've been playing teams who park the bus for a few seasons now, hence one of the reasons we let Sterling go (as defences sat deep and there was no space to run into) and bought Grealish (who holds the ball against packed defences well and wins lots of free kicks around the box).

We're not coping well with time wasting tactics, niggly and hard fouls and gullable officiating. We let opponents and officials disrupt our composure, when we should rise above it and it should increase our determination. Time wasting never gets fully added on (like it did at the world cup) so if we go behind then we'll struggle (apart from Spurs at home).

We're starting too slow in an early attempt to control the game. Apart from against the rags at home when we went for it in the first half, we're quite content to control first halves instead of winning the game in the first half. We've scored more goals in the second halves than any other club in the country. We've also wasted more first halves than any other club in the country.

We've become too risk averse. Always the safe pass, usually sideways or backwards. We've become too ponderous and predictable. If I'm the opposition I'd love our back 4 to be passing to each other and our midfield passing back to them and our forwards isolated and frustrated. Thats's about 90% of the our possession. Possession outside the box is great when we're ahead, so lets do it when we're ahead....not when we're level or losing. This also applies to passes around the edge of the box. Why not have a few shots from there occasionally eh?

We don't mix it up enough. Same old, same old, rinse and repeat. Lets try a few long balls when we can (Eddie is capable but has been instructed not to) and whilst mentioning Eddie (love the guy), can you please try to save a shot now and then please. His career is starting to mimmick Bravo's if he's not careful and is in danger of being benched for Ortega. And whilst we're at it, if Kev ain't playing a through ball, then who is? No through balls to Haaland when he starts his run is a complete waste of his main strength. Any young talented player would rightly be frustrated in that situation.

We have the players, the experience and the manager to yet make this season a successful one (again thankfully). Sorting most of the above out would go a long way towards achieving it.
 
Thing is we sort of played into spurs hands, allowed them to play on the counter attack.
Be interesting if City did the same give spurs the ball and we play them on the counter. Spurs were the home team what would they do ? What would happen if both teams didnt want the ball and to play on the counter.

Why dont City set up with all 11 players 18 yards from our box, spurs wouldnt have had a clue how to break us down.
 
pep's ready for a re build, next season we will be awesome, expect big changes, ITK

the problem is, will he make it to the end of the season ? also, would you give any manager with one year left on his contract, a shitload of money to spend and build a new team if he's not going to stay and see it bear fruit
 
Seems pep is trying to do his best impression of van gall with the absolutely shite boring sideways wank style of play.
 
the problem is, will he make it to the end of the season ? also, would you give any manager with one year left on his contract, a shitload of money to spend and build a new team if he's not going to stay and see it bear fruit
No, would need to commit long term.
 
We are just guessing what the problems are. Greatness doesn't last forever or sometimes it needs a break. That isn't just the players.
Agreed. I said as much the other week too. It's also affected us as fans too. I'm not saying we're at the same levels of entitlement as the red top mafia, but there's a belief, dare I say an expectation that City will find a way to prevail.

Where this squad is concerned, this is no longer the case which raises other issues. If the squad malaise has spread, how deep has it gone?

New players adapt to the culture they find. If our culture us waning & we part company with those who no longer have synergy with City, can we revive our previous culture, or do we have to create a new culture?

Pep questioned himself. Perish the thought, but could it be a case of the players no longer responding to Guardiola's voice in the dressing room?

Personally I'm backing Pep & the club's management to the hilt, but they also need to now show they've got the balls to do what's necessary.

If that means Bernardo & Gundog leave. Walker, Mahrez & KDB are no longer guaranteed starters & we bring in new players to allow us to replace or phase out the aforementioned, then so be it.

We need to stop fucking about with the left back position & properly fill it & look at right back too. With Cancelo unlikely to return & Walker being 32/33, he's another 2 seasons at the top maximum & our ONLY senior full back. This is shocking for a club like Manchester City.

After the recent transfer splurges by Chelsea, ManUre & Arsenal, we need to get our big balls out & replenish the squad now whilst it just needs to evolve. If we allow what I'm witnessing to continue, that evolution could become a necessary Revolution, & we've seen that just cost Chelsea £600m+.

This season, & our approach to transfers this summer will tell us a shit load about where we go from hereon in...
 
Not after a season ffs

I'd like to think not Ray, but you never know what's going through his head, working with a control freak like Pep.
To be absolutely honest, I think Haaland would have expected Pep to build his team/tactics around him when he arrived. Pep seems to be going out of his way to make sure that the world's best striker 'knows his place' and expects him to fit into his system.
As someone said earlier, it's like having a Ferrari and using it as a tractor.
 
Just a quick look tells that there are too many idiots at large.

Getting rid of Pep is not the answer.

There’s no doubt Pep has identified the issues with our current team but his solutions haven’t worked yet. He’ll fix it eventually though it may be too late for this season.
 
If we played at home to spurs today and lost 1.0 would the fans have booed at half-time and full-time,
pep ego needs a wobble and OK I was wrong to everybody ? a young Rico Lewis is being asked to step up to the first team and play week in week out, then asked to play invert left back ? letting Cancelo go and then saying ok son your at left back today,

the whole back line is a complete mess and forget being a world cup season shit ? we have Laporte and Dias fully fit and sat on the bench, Gomez a left back pep signed in the summer, Foden with a mystery illness or a heel problem, What we need right now, is a good run of game with the same setup and a leader and the form and results will come,

Whatever is the problem between the manager and players has got to be sorted enough is enough,
Pep ego will be the death of him, being wrong is not hard to say ? respect will also be seen in holding his hands up and saying i was wrong to the players
Might be that his No2 is not right for the job? He had reliable assistants in Arteta, Kidd etc. I think his 'single mindedness' is preventing him heeding advice? Or he is confusing the players with his instructions??
 
I'd like to think not Ray, but you never know what's going through his head, working with a control freak like Pep.
To be absolutely honest, I think Haaland would have expected Pep to build his team/tactics around him when he arrived. Pep seems to be going out of his way to make sure that the world's best striker 'knows his place' and expects him to fit into his system.
As someone said earlier, it's like having a Ferrari and using it as a tractor.
One season nope. If things get evem worse after next then who knows? Although I don't see that happening
 
I'd like to think not Ray, but you never know what's going through his head, working with a control freak like Pep.
To be absolutely honest, I think Haaland would have expected Pep to build his team/tactics around him when he arrived. Pep seems to be going out of his way to make sure that the world's best striker 'knows his place' and expects him to fit into his system.
As someone said earlier, it's like having a Ferrari and using it as a tractor.
Interestingly enough, Ibrahimovic once told pep himself that he was a Ferrari and pep was driving him like a fiat. Taken from his autobiography.
 

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