Ticket prices for 2nd leg v PSG.

[blueparrot]

Aren't those £299 season tickets "single tickets" ? What if you want to enjoy sitting next to friends or family ? Do you get that option with those tickets ? Not as much fun going on your own as it is sharing the event with other fans is it.

What next ? Let them eat cake...

No they weren't single tickets whole groups of people could relocate to the £299 or £350 seats if they wanted.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Aren't those £299 season tickets "single tickets" ? What if you want to enjoy sitting next to friends or family ? Do you get that option with those tickets ? Not as much fun going on your own as it is sharing the event with other fans is it.

What next ? Let them eat cake...

The £299 tickets were first made available to every existing season ticket holder. You could move as a single or as a group with friends and/or family. Loads moved on that basis BUT the £299 tickets did not sell out. They were then made available to the Waiting list.

Later they opened up further availabilty for £299 seats and they were mainly filling the random single spaces in various parts of the ground.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

It is yes to an extent.

One would think two men that could never spend all the money they were born into could still make a profit on their investment AND not fuck over the people that kept the club afloat for generations though.

I'd understand if the club relied on match day income to survive to an a degree but it makes up such a piffling percentage of turnover that it's beyond ridiculous to push it until the pips squeak.

Sadly it has a sniff of a cartel about it. Minimum pricing would go some way to explaining the ridiculous prices charged by every club in England and in Europe. Barca v Atletico is €85 (£66) and they can't need the money either. Norwich charged us £50 but must pay the staff much less when Newcastle turn up as its only £30!
Until fans of ALL clubs say; no more we aren't going to turn up, then no clubs are going to do the right thing.
Collective action and not individual gestures are what is needed.

 

[blueparrot]

Sadly it has a sniff of a cartel about it. Minimum pricing would go some way to explaining the ridiculous prices charged by every club in England and in Europe. Barca v Atletico is €85 (£66) and they can't need the money either. Norwich charged us £50 but must pay the staff much less when Newcastle turn up as its only £30!
Until fans of ALL clubs say; no more we aren't going to turn up, then no clubs are going to do the right thing.
Collective action and not individual gestures are what is needed.

Collective action as in the action that achieved the £30 away tickets is the way forward.

 

[alib]

All this sort of makes not really care if we don't finish in the top 4 as we'll just be ripped off even more next season in the CL?

 

[LadislavMplmx]

I genuinely feel the club are more than aware of how we would react to this sort of thing.

I feel they want us out.
Replace the locals who pay less per match in place of tourists who will fly in with Etihad, spend daft money in the club shop and use the yet to be built super hotel on the Asda site.

Fuck us. We're just the vermin to these business men

so i take it your not one of those who think "the more the merrier" is the future? ;)

 

[LadislavMplmx]

Perhaps one of the Mods can start a "sticky" thread with a vote button - Based upon the PSG prices are you planning to join the Champs League Cup Scheme next season?
Then hopefully this will send a message out to the club, who obviously read this forum.

if they did read this forum the prices would be in the hundreds the amount of shit that gets posted ha

 

[Philj]

Well I've come off cup scheme and deleted my card details just in case, this is a pure piss take the kind of thing we used to laugh at other clubs doing. I really do hope it doesn't sell out, a half empty stadium will show the club to be the fucking joke it's turning into

 

[Blue-Eyes]

We need to send a message to the club, otherwise this will just become normal.
If (IF!) we get through, the Semi tickets will be £75/£80!!

Could we all cancel the direct debits with our banks? The club would shit themselves on Tuesday when the Cup Scheme subscribers - who they have already accounted for, and taken advantage of - reject the payments.

 

[fathellensbellend]

whats not to like, just a day and a halfs at work to take the family to see 90 mins of football, it might be the night where we can all say "i saw Bony run", they can stick their cup schemes up their arse next season.

 

[deafmanstevo]

All this sort of makes not really care if we don't finish in the top 4 as we'll just be ripped off even more next season in the CL?

Not just a CL problem tho is it, apart from this Paris match which the pricing is ridiculous the other CL games have been fair priced, it's cost me more to go to Premier League away games, and I do know it's costs a lot to attend our games if you don't have a season card, it's costing my mate and his girlfriend nearly 100 quid to come to tomm match, I know it's a derby but it's still a lot of money for some.

 

[bobmcfc]

We need to send a message to the club, otherwise this will just become normal.
If (IF!) we get through, the Semi tickets will be £75/£80!!

Could we all cancel the direct debits with our banks? The club would shit themselves on Tuesday when the Cup Scheme subscribers - who they have already accounted for, and taken advantage of - reject the payments.

You can go on your account on mcfc and take yourself off the cup scheme.
If you do that they can't take the payment. I've done it and others should too ! As much as I want to go I'm sick of being rinsed !


They take it from your debit card so the only thing that is direct debit it your seasoncard.

 

[Centurions]

Well said girlbob. Some disgustingly smug twats on here. I hope they enjoy it when the person next to them interrupts them eating their quiche or prawn & avocado sandwich to ask which team is City and would they mind taking a picture of them. My club has become everything I've hated about the rags over the years and some of our so-called fans are rapidly turning into the sort of arrogant cunts who occupy the swamp. I'm not sure I want to be part of it any more.

So anyone who has an opposing view to you is a 'disgustingly smug twat' or an 'arrogant ****'? Nice, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

You've become a right miserable bugger recently PB. Sorry for having a differing viewpoint.

 

[Shaelumstash]

What the fuck are you on about? You keep banging the drum for 2015-16 season ticket renewal as if it's the important thing negating to use you brain to understand that people already priced out City weren't renewing. Those poor fuckers now have to pay £60 for a Chelsea ticket.

Yes we get sell outs (just about) but that's the way the club want it to be. They know that in business it's better to have 98% uptake than oversubscription on the supply/demand curve to get the best cost benefit. The fact they are thinking like that and pricing out the working class families says it all.

Keep your blinkers on all you want. Defend the board all all you wish. But all is shows is how much of a fuck you don't give about tens of thousands that can no longer enjoy the match, with their mates and young ones, like they could ten years ago. And for what? £6m on the accounts. Now compare what we've spent on some questionable players since the take over and realise how stupid it is.

This is a great post, and it's an issue I and @Prestwich_Blue have raised in other threads.

We'll probably get an attendance of 40,000, each paying an average of £55, that's £2.2m in revenue. We could have a full house of 55,000 paying £35 and get £1,925,000 in revenue. A rocking atmosphere, loads of Blues who don't normally get the chance to come and see us every week, could be a big turning point for fans who haven't really got on board with the Champions League, make it an occasion to remember.

The difference in revenue is less than Yaya Toure's weekly wage. But the difference in price for Blues, especially those on lower incomes or with young families, is huge. But the club don't really give a toss about that. They're looking at the £275k of additional revenue and thinking that's the only thing that matters. Fuck the fans in one of the most deprived districts of the country. Fuck the loyalty they have showed over the last 40 odd years, let's alienate tens of thousands of them in order to increase revenue by the equivalent of 1% of Wilfred Bony's transfer fee.

The board have deliberately put a wedge between itself and our fans in the last few years so that they can squeeze every last penny out of us and feel no way about it.

In the past we had Garry Cook attending supporters club meetings. Of course he was not universally popular, but no one could ever accuse him of not giving a toss about the fans. There used to be the "Points of Blue" meetings, where issues such as ticket prices could be raised to the board. Not any more.

The closest we get to redress now is the club questionnaires. They used to be fairly detailed and gave you ample opportunity to express your grievances, now they are an insult to intelligent people everywhere. You get about 6 questions, all of which are written in a leading tone to push you in to giving them the feedback they want to hear. I had the PSG questionnaire through the other day, and match day prices were not even mentioned! As if the club assumed there was universal acclaim for their pricing structure!

The club does not want to hear bad news and negative feedback from the fans, so it has cut all lines of communication for fans to give honest feedback.

 

[bobmcfc]

This is a great post, and it's an issue I and @Prestwich_Blue have raised in other threads.

We'll probably get an attendance of 40,000, each paying an average of £55, that's £2.2m in revenue. We could have a full house of 55,000 paying £35 and get £1,925,000 in revenue. A rocking atmosphere, loads of Blues who don't normally get the chance to come and see us every week, could be a big turning point for fans who haven't really got on board with the Champions League, make it an occasion to remember.

The difference in revenue is less than Yaya Toure's weekly wage. But the difference in price for Blues, especially those on lower incomes or with young families, is huge. But the club don't really give a toss about that. They're looking at the £275k of additional revenue and thinking that's the only thing that matters. Fuck the fans in one of the most deprived districts of the country. Fuck the loyalty they have showed over the last 40 odd years, let's alienate tens of thousands of them in order to increase revenue by the equivalent of 1% of Wilfred Bony's transfer fee.

The board have deliberately put a wedge between itself and our fans in the last few years so that they can squeeze every last penny out of us and feel no way about it.

In the past we had Garry Cook attending supporters club meetings. Of course he was not universally popular, but no one could ever accuse him of not giving a toss about the fans. There used to be the "Points of Blue" meetings, where issues such as ticket prices could be raised to the board. Not any more.

The closest we get to redress now is the club questionnaires. They used to be fairly detailed and gave you ample opportunity to express your grievances, now they are an insult to intelligent people everywhere. You get about 6 questions, all of which are written in a leading tone to push you in to giving them the feedback they want to hear. I had the PSG questionnaire through the other day, and match day prices were not even mentioned! As if the club assumed there was universal acclaim for their pricing structure!

The club does not want to hear bad news and negative feedback from the fans, so it has cut all lines of communication for fans to give honest feedback.

If there was like button I would like the shit out of this post

 

[SWP's back]

This is a great post, and it's an issue I and @Prestwich_Blue have raised in other threads.

We'll probably get an attendance of 40,000, each paying an average of £55, that's £2.2m in revenue. We could have a full house of 55,000 paying £35 and get £1,925,000 in revenue. A rocking atmosphere, loads of Blues who don't normally get the chance to come and see us every week, could be a big turning point for fans who haven't really got on board with the Champions League, make it an occasion to remember.

The difference in revenue is less than Yaya Toure's weekly wage. But the difference in price for Blues, especially those on lower incomes or with young families, is huge. But the club don't really give a toss about that. They're looking at the £275k of additional revenue and thinking that's the only thing that matters. Fuck the fans in one of the most deprived districts of the country. Fuck the loyalty they have showed over the last 40 odd years, let's alienate tens of thousands of them in order to increase revenue by the equivalent of 1% of Wilfred Bony's transfer fee.

The board have deliberately put a wedge between itself and our fans in the last few years so that they can squeeze every last penny out of us and feel no way about it.

In the past we had Garry Cook attending supporters club meetings. Of course he was not universally popular, but no one could ever accuse him of not giving a toss about the fans. There used to be the "Points of Blue" meetings, where issues such as ticket prices could be raised to the board. Not any more.

The closest we get to redress now is the club questionnaires. They used to be fairly detailed and gave you ample opportunity to express your grievances, now they are an insult to intelligent people everywhere. You get about 6 questions, all of which are written in a leading tone to push you in to giving them the feedback they want to hear. I had the PSG questionnaire through the other day, and match day prices were not even mentioned! As if the club assumed there was universal acclaim for their pricing structure!

The club does not want to hear bad news and negative feedback from the fans, so it has cut all lines of communication for fans to give honest feedback.

Agree with every line of that.

 

[alib]

This is a great post, and it's an issue I and @Prestwich_Blue have raised in other threads.

We'll probably get an attendance of 40,000, each paying an average of £55, that's £2.2m in revenue. We could have a full house of 55,000 paying £35 and get £1,925,000 in revenue. A rocking atmosphere, loads of Blues who don't normally get the chance to come and see us every week, could be a big turning point for fans who haven't really got on board with the Champions League, make it an occasion to remember.

The difference in revenue is less than Yaya Toure's weekly wage. But the difference in price for Blues, especially those on lower incomes or with young families, is huge. But the club don't really give a toss about that. They're looking at the £275k of additional revenue and thinking that's the only thing that matters. Fuck the fans in one of the most deprived districts of the country. Fuck the loyalty they have showed over the last 40 odd years, let's alienate tens of thousands of them in order to increase revenue by the equivalent of 1% of Wilfred Bony's transfer fee.

The board have deliberately put a wedge between itself and our fans in the last few years so that they can squeeze every last penny out of us and feel no way about it.

In the past we had Garry Cook attending supporters club meetings. Of course he was not universally popular, but no one could ever accuse him of not giving a toss about the fans. There used to be the "Points of Blue" meetings, where issues such as ticket prices could be raised to the board. Not any more.

The closest we get to redress now is the club questionnaires. They used to be fairly detailed and gave you ample opportunity to express your grievances, now they are an insult to intelligent people everywhere. You get about 6 questions, all of which are written in a leading tone to push you in to giving them the feedback they want to hear. I had the PSG questionnaire through the other day, and match day prices were not even mentioned! As if the club assumed there was universal acclaim for their pricing structure!

The club does not want to hear bad news and negative feedback from the fans, so it has cut all lines of communication for fans to give honest feedback.

Spot on pal

 

[newposter]

Was looking at some old away tickets I'd saved and there was a home ticket in there at £35.00 for a derby in 2006. That's our highest cat game and it was in the East stand.

Ten years later and you'd be lucky to pay that against Norwich.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Was looking at some old away tickets I'd saved and there was a home ticket in there at £35.00 for a derby in 2006. That's our highest cat game and it was in the East stand.

Ten years later and you'd be lucky to pay that against Norwich.

The point is that tickets for the game at Norwich were £50 and people are saying that £55 for a CL QF is reasonable compared to that. But £50 to go to Norwich is NOT reasonable in any way, shape or form. £30 is reasonable for a game like that and therefore £40 would be a reasonable top price for the PSG match. In other words, the price they asked for the Kiev game would be more suitable.

I'd adjust the @Shaelumstash figures down a bit. I reckon, when you take the price structure and juniors into account, our average price per ticket will be around £37/38. So with 40,000, that's about £1.5m. Drop the prices by £20 and that comes down to, say, £25. 50,000 tickets sold at that price is £1.25m or £250k less.

It's quite staggering and incredibly sad that the club appear to value that £250k more than the extra 10,000 seats that would be filled by charging a lower price. Particularly when we're getting €6m just for playing those two games and our share of the market pool will have been increased by being the only English team to qualify for this stage. Half of that is allocated based on the number of games played so the rags played 6, Chelsea & Arsenal both played 8 and we'll have played at least 10, meaning we get at least 10/32 of that pot. I suspect that's worth at least another €5m compared to us having gone out in the last 16, even if we get mullered in both games.

That's an extra €11m for just playing these two games yet the club values an additional €300k over a full house and the possibility that the extra support could make a difference between winning and not winning the tie. It's fucking brainless and possibly gives a clue as to how Soriano led Spanair into bankruptcy.

 

[Corky]

Yes PB, a good example of economic myopia.