Jack Grealish

[sir baconface]

Foden has a long way to go your quite correct, he will have as many ups as downs, that has to be expected for a young player, but so does Grealish, two decent seasons at Villa does not make him a world beater.

Grealish like Foden very talented but a lot of hard work and improvement is needed.

True but both are potentially world class if they play their cards right.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Why the lol?
Fuck me people are over rating this lad unlike anything I've ever seen and anybody who thinks he's better than Foden must be on the wum at this point.

I like Grealish a lot and would be happy to see him sign but I'm hearing he will be our second best player and its enough to make you weep.

I'm waiting for someone to suggest Jack Grealish in the 'Who's going to take over when Pep leaves' thread.

It won't be me, I promise....

 

[Phil1]

True but both are potentially world class if they play their cards right.

I've no doubts about his potential to become the player that a few on here already think he's reached, I just don't see him there right now.

 

[waspish]

Agreed, mate. It's not easy. That's why the Villa owners won't want to lose Jack. It would be massively deflating to the wave of optimism they've built around the club. It's more than just losing his ability on the field.

Why haven’t they come out and said we ain’t selling him know matter how much is offered? That’s what having wealthy owners can do..

 

[Gingers Dad]

Think back to the carabo final mate phil absolutely schooled grealish ;)

I rate Foden higher than Grealish but that's a bit of a harsh comparison

 

[burning blue soul]

A Dortmund in England if you will

Southampton are at the front door saying "Hi"

 

[Sid McGrath]

It's just inevitable IMO that he will leave to someone higher up the food chain at this moment in time. It used to happend to us, I was gutted when SWP went to Chelsea but it was understandable and we needed the money. In a few years it may be the other way round, but at this moment in time I don't see Villa challenging for anything or getting near the top 4. If you are a top level player you need to be playing in a top level team. Do you really want to get to the end of your career and look back at that one season when you helped your team finish 8th or look back at winning things every season?

It's a bit like if you have a partner who is much better looking than you, you know at some point they are going to probably leave you for someone more in their league. (Not that it's ever happened to me as I'm a handsome bastard! Apart from my hunch back and I'm bow legged)

Yeah, Villa are in a race against time, trying to match Jack's personal ambitions. The fans know this. If he wasn't a Villa boy he'd be gone already, no doubt.

 

[philjoneswho?]

Southampton are at the front door saying "Hi"

A Dortmund on the South Coast and a Dortmund in the Midlands...better?

 

[Sid McGrath]

I think Villa have done everything on their part to possibly keep Grealish. They’ve offered him an improved contract and are spending big on improving the side.

I personally don’t think it will be enough to get them into the top 4 but finishing in the top 8 should be a realistic goal for Villa. Is that enough to keep Grealish happy though?

The big thing working against Villa at the moment is the cult status Grealish received during the Euros and the upcoming WC.

The Euros is the prime example of how an international tournament can turn a player into a marketing dream. Jack is at his highest marketable stock right now. A move to a CL club, playing regular football and winning trophies will take him to another level.

Having another good season at Villa might not even guarantee him a starting place in the WC side, especially with Sancho joining United and Foden, Mount and Bellingham all having more experience. There are a lot of players for England competing with Grealish who are younger, have the potential to be better and are playing in the CL.

I suppose that’s the gamble Grealish has to take and in a way, it’s unfortunate for Villa that there’s not a two-year gap before the next international tournament.

I think Leicester are the perfect blueprint for Villa. They sold their key players for top money, reinvested in the squad and become stronger for it. If Villa end up with Buendia, Cantwell and Bailey but sell Grealish, I think they’d be a much stronger side than last season.

I get the 'sell and strengthen overall' argument. There's a stronger than usual emotional connection for the fans where Jack's concerned, though.

Also, it's just amazing having a world-class (imo! :-)) operator playing for us. It's been 20 odd years since the last one!

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I'm waiting for someone to suggest Jack Grealish in the 'Who's going to take over when Pep leaves' thread.

It won't be me, I promise....

Would have hated to disappoint ;-)

 

[Sid McGrath]

Foden has already proven his worth by becoming one of the most important players in one of the best sides in the world before he hit 21.
His footballing education has been surrounded by and learning from the best players and management in world football.
Of course he's still not finished that education and still has more growing and improving to go but that will just see him ecome the best player in the world over time instead of just one of the best in the league where he is right now.

If we do sign Grealish it'll be because somebody is likely to leave and he's a player who could fit into our squad no problem as a replacement not because Foden is the answer to a question not being asked...
Not thinking Grealish is the second best player in the league doesn't make that person non appreciative of non City players, it just makes that person sane.
Grealish is quality, I'd be happy if he signed but he's not done anything close to warrant the accolades being thrown at him from some quarters.

Grealish has 'proven his worth', also...unless you believe the only way you can do so is by 'winning something'?

He dragged Villa out of the Championship on his shoulders and kept them up when they were newly promoted, with a basically new team, and has put in consistent, game-controlling performances, improving year-on-year.

Phil Foden is amazing for his age, and MAY become the best in the world in the future. I don't believe he could've taken a Villa team on his shoulders, inspired them, and 'achieved' what Jack has in the last three seasons, though.

 

[Phil1]

Grealish has 'proven his worth', also...unless you believe the only way you can do so is by 'winning something'?

He dragged Villa out of the Championship on his shoulders and kept them up when they were newly promoted, with a basically new team, and has put in consistent, game-controlling performances, improving year-on-year.

Phil Foden is amazing for his age, and MAY become the best in the world in the future. I don't believe he could've taken a Villa team on his shoulders, inspired them, and 'achieved' what Jack has in the last three seasons, though.

At 17, no he probably couldn't. This version of Foden we are seeing now though could have, absolutely.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Grealish has 'proven his worth', also...unless you believe the only way you can do so is by 'winning something'?

He dragged Villa out of the Championship on his shoulders and kept them up when they were newly promoted, with a basically new team, and has put in consistent, game-controlling performances, improving year-on-year.

Phil Foden is amazing for his age, and MAY become the best in the world in the future. I don't believe he could've taken a Villa team on his shoulders, inspired them, and 'achieved' what Jack has in the last three seasons, though.

I agree,the extra few years Grealish has on Phil have given him an edge in terms of leadership and inspiration.I am seeing more and more of that in our boy though,and i wouldnt be surprised to see him fighting Dias for the armband in a couple more years.

 

[Gingers Dad]

Grealish has 'proven his worth', also...unless you believe the only way you can do so is by 'winning something'?

He dragged Villa out of the Championship on his shoulders and kept them up when they were newly promoted, with a basically new team, and has put in consistent, game-controlling performances, improving year-on-year.

Phil Foden is amazing for his age, and MAY become the best in the world in the future. I don't believe he could've taken a Villa team on his shoulders, inspired them, and 'achieved' what Jack has in the last three seasons, though.

Pretty much immaterial to the current debate what Grealish achieved in the Championship. Foden has starred in CL where as Grealish has never even played in the competition

 

[Keeper!]

True but both are potentially world class if they play their cards right.

I would think that in time the Grealish we may see at City, will be a very different player to the one of today.

 

[Akira]

Grealish has 'proven his worth', also...unless you believe the only way you can do so is by 'winning something'?

He dragged Villa out of the Championship on his shoulders and kept them up when they were newly promoted, with a basically new team, and has put in consistent, game-controlling performances, improving year-on-year.

Phil Foden is amazing for his age, and MAY become the best in the world in the future. I don't believe he could've taken a Villa team on his shoulders, inspired them, and 'achieved' what Jack has in the last three seasons, though.

Unfair comparison though, considering Grealish is older and much more experienced.

 

[Sid McGrath]

Why haven’t they come out and said we ain’t selling him know matter how much is offered? That’s what having wealthy owners can do..

The Villa fans know they don't want to sell. The Villa fans know Grealish won't 'play up' to get a move. Why do they need to comment on a situation that hasn't happened?

 

[Sid McGrath]

Unfair comparison though, considering Grealish is older and much more experienced.

My comment was in reply to someone mentioning Foden's achievements, and claiming Grealish had achieved nothing of note, or words to that effect.

I also said in the sentence before that which you highlighted, Foden's amazing for his age, so...

 

[simon23]

Ferguson was a bully who controlled the press coverage that came out of OT. Public only ever heard one side of that story in my opinion. Could you imagine if Pep hit a player with a football boot?

I don't doubt any of that but he also saw a problem with the ammount of attention Beckhams 'celebrity status ' brought as well.....and he wasnt wrong

 

[Keeper!]

I don't doubt any of that but he also saw a problem with the ammount of attention Beckhams 'celebrity status ' brought as well.....and he wasnt wrong

He was becoming bigger than the club, you can't have that anywhere, and hence why he left.

Ironically you could say the same with Ferguson and why they still let him hang around and stink the place out, crazy, but it makes the Little Fellas job impossible.